ARAM dodging is way out of hand

YambrinZ·Nov 24, 2016·11 votes·918 views

ARAM should be random. Can you please implement a stricter dodge punishment for ARAM. Ranked is understodd because your team may be trolling etc, ty.

14 Comments

Critmaster GarenNov 24, 20165 votes

as long as riot doesnt do anything about aram accounts and i have to face sona every second game, ill dodge when our team doesnt have a good comp or at least one of those 70% winrate champions.

im sorry for everyones time being wasted, but i dont feel like playing 20 minutes to get completely crapped on by shit like Sona Kennen Blitzcrank Caitlyn Heimerdinger Jayce Zyra Shaco while rolling eve or udyr because im playing fair and the enemy is not.

BIackfoxNov 24, 20162 votes

They should give you a lesser dodge times. Imagine if you have a whole shitty comp? You should thank the person...

SaiannaNov 25, 20161 votes

Someone has no idea what ARAM stands for huh?

BIackfoxNov 25, 20162 votes

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Someone has no idea what ARAM stands for huh?

I do but I guess you don't know what a assraping is when you get a shit team against a sona, kennen, veigar Kat and brand

SaiannaNov 25, 20161 votes

I have 3,500 games in HA ARAM and about 500 more from custom-ARAM times.

I do know what it means to play versus OP teams.

But i also have understanding, that manipulating RANDOM element by either smurfing or dodging is retarded. What's the point of playing ARAM if you want most OP pick? Go play Poro king or go to customs if you dislike that R in ARAM.

-.-

BIackfoxNov 25, 20161 votes

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I have 3,500 games in HA ARAM and about 500 more from custom-ARAM times.

I do know what it means to play versus OP teams.

But i also have understanding, that manipulating RANDOM element by either smurfing or dodging is retarded. What's the point of playing ARAM if you want most OP pick? Go play Poro king or go to customs if you dislike that R in ARAM.

-.-

I would only play porno king if it was available 24/7

Poorly DressedNov 24, 20161 votes

I have played almost 2k ARAM games and - don't get me wrong - sometimes i am more than happy that people dodge super shitty team comps that you can't fix with rerolls. Once you get up a bit in the ARAM MMR (even just slightly) you will meet all the op stuff with HUGE winrates way above 60%. You don't want to get poked to hell and back for 20 minutes without having a serious chance to win while the enemy spams mastery. This map needs a serious rebalance before the dodging will go down.

SaiannaNov 25, 20161 votes

I have almost all champions.

In 90% cases I get a tank. "LUCKILY" someone dodges, thus even I manage to get a non-tank champion to play.

And Latency is doing the best he can do ignore ARAM players.

I myself don't dodge.

NazosiNov 25, 20161 votes

Sorry Riot, But every time I get this shit: Warwick I'm dodging.

NogrimNov 25, 20161 votes

i love WW in aram, you just need to really play him differently prioritizing you scent and Atk steroid, WW in ARAM plays more like a support imho you sit back buffing your team with his W when they engage, use E to keep their injured team mates in teh back line. your Q is all but irrelevant

everyone is waiting for you to ult and pounce on you, its amazing how much of a distraction/psycological effect your blood scent can have when people cant recall to heal. i always avoid killing who ever has my blood scent triggered because the free move speed is so nice and keeps the whole rest of their team worried i can chase them down.

he isn't great, but you can have a lot of fun with him you just can't try and play him like his normal jungle self.

God RaijinNov 25, 20161 votes

To be fair OP, ARAM has like twice as long of a dodge timer before you can re-enter Que. Idk the things I've discovered about aram, are that I would rather not spend 2 minutes in que to get into a 15ish minute unwinnable one sided game that I basically don't get to even play.

I would honestly rather wait 15 minutes along with all the dodging until all 10 players are satisfied enough with what the team comps are going to be.

Honestly dodges are kind of like this, you might get bummed out when you roll something good and then someone dodges, but then you need to notice all of the times you get a crappy champ and someone spares you and your whole team from that game.

Honestly in my opinion dodges are like a form of quality control for the games that go on.

NotSpecialDudeNov 25, 20162 votes

While I can't deny the usefulness of dodges, you can't help but note how it goes against the spirit of "All Randoom"

In aram at least , I can ignore it cause of the lack of agendcy given to the players.

Ultimately, in the case of aram exclusively, it's a case of either you care or you don't and frankly I'm in the latter

God RaijinNov 25, 20161 votes

Yeah I get where you're coming from, ALL RANDOM should mean all random, It might just be me though, but I like the way aram is, in it's wholeness, with players dodging, sure that creates a more "controlled" aspect (not as random) sure it eats time, but I feel like dodges make the games come out closer to being fair and playable more of the time, and to me that really adds a lot of skill to playing aram rather than just losing a coin flip in champ select. Like don't get me wrong que times are a pain especially at Challenger mmr. https://na.whatismymmr.com/God%20Raijin

Some nights I literally can't play aram, just because their are no high rated players on (I've waited over 2 hours for a game), but when I get bad games I just dont enjoy myself, the dodges just make the actual game that I end up playing higher quality, (making a reference to both teams having somewhat even comps, or at least having 10 players who are content enough with their comp) it makes a better game of aram to play, so it's not as bad as it might sound. (hating what your doing, or waiting for something worth it)

Mountain WardenNov 25, 20161 votes

Dodging is bad since you don't even know what you're up against any way. I remember last year I was playing with my buddy. We rolled a ridiculous team. All melee, very little damage, not that much CC. Me and my buddy never dodge. But that time we were like WTF, we're gonna get poked and kited to death. Well I convinced him to stay and see what happens and he reluctantly agreed. We saw the opposing team on the loading screen which furthered our despair. Well we couldn't have misjudged our team more. We ended winning that game by stomping them in under 15mins.

TL;DR I hate dodgers because you can't accurately judge how your team will perform so it's better to just play.