@riot adc's need new items.

Jonathan Comets·10/24/2016, 4:13:24 PM·2 votes·1,539 views

With lethality replacing armor pen and all of the flat armor pen items changed to fit assassins with the exception of item 3071 item 3036 item 3033, there is nothing left for adc's. item 3142 was good for some champs that could benefit from the stats but cannot with the new update. Draven Jhin Twitch Lucian MissFortune The Flat armor pen movement speed and attack speed stats helped kite,damage, or escape. Rammus Braum Volibear Garen Maokai Nautilus Nasus Skarner Trundle Maw of Malmortius (item 3156) helped with adding magic resist and added flat pen as well but that is being changed to cooldown. item 3147 this was also good, you could benefit from the execution it delivered with long range champs such as Jhin Draven Caitlyn. I understand the need for an assassin update even items but not only do adc's have to worry about completely invisible assassins Shaco, champions made to target you Zed, or crazy mobility and damage. Talon Rengar Katarina You now have to worry about meta tanks with high CC champs locking you down and not being able to damage them because you have no flat pen, escape, or extra defense for items to turn to. The update on top of the item take away is going to limit the champions you want to play. I'd have to stick with Ezreal Corki Tristana Vayne to stay alive and even that is going to be hard with the assassin update. I'm not asking for reworks just new items that help give lethality stats and movement speed actives or passives. Dodging assassins mids, jg's, lockdown meta tanks does not give an adc who only has summoner 4 for an escape a fighting chance and does not make the game much fun either. The build paths are going to be boring and if you do not get fed you are not going to a very fun game as adc in general.

30 Comments

Sherogarth10/24/2016, 4:26:49 PM3 votes

You know that's the whole point of this change? Adc's should stick to thier crit and attack speed, flat armor pen was an abomination in adc's builds.

Ralanr10/24/2016, 4:17:29 PM3 votes

It's called crit. You build it to do damage late.

ZenithEevee10/24/2016, 4:21:44 PM1 votes

do...

Do you even know about how lethality is basically teh same as Flat Armor pen, Except it isnt all exactly flat, and scales with level?

Borror10/24/2016, 6:02:54 PM1 votes

I might be going crazy but I'm pretty sure you have it reversed, tanks counter flat armor penetration on items like maw and ghost blade. Flat armor penetration should be strong against squishes like mages and adcs, which is why assassins are supposed to build it and is part of why tanks are supposed to beat assassins. Flat armor penatration should not at all be built to fight tanks. If adcs need with tanks, the movement speed that all zeal items have, black cleaver ( which is NOT an adc item) with % armor penetration (which Should be good against tanks) and flat movement to help kite, Frozen Mallet/iceborn gauntlet with slowing aa if your really mean to help kite, life steal from blood thirster and deaths dance can easily make the damage from tanks useless, %hp and stealing ms with Bork is great against tanks (although the item is kinda weak right now), merc that allows you to ignore the tanks cc, and even trinity force with flat movement speed helps kiting tanks. In fact, the only item that adcs build that doesn't help deal with tanks is infinity edge and even then, dealing more crit damage = more life steal to make tanks useless. There is also going to be a new support item that lets them take damage for you to make you even harder to kill. So no, adcs do not need more items to deal with tanks. As for assassins, build a GA and just trust your team to help deal with them. Assasins are supposed to counter adcs so there shouldn't be to much you can do except stay near your peel so they can do their jobs. Sorry if I ranted

FulleroDendrimer10/24/2016, 7:51:08 PM1 votes

Need ad version of zhonya. cuz adc pretty much cant do anything when zed ults them every single time

Requiemsfire10/24/2016, 8:50:37 PM1 votes

Only ADC there I'm concerned about is Lucian because he was nerfed to balance around having that armour pen build recieving some pretty hard nerfs. He currently has a below 50% win rate and the nerfs to armour pen could potentially drive him down even further.

Jonathan Comets1/28/2017, 8:02:39 AM1 votes

CALLED IT, aside from twitch pretty solid post. AM I WRONG NOW ?? ADC 2017 pfft

Big Lincoln10/24/2016, 4:20:55 PM1 votes

all pen should be removed