Veigar DFG "Compensation"

Mathlete864··2 votes·843 views

I thought that the removal of DFG would be a nerf to veigar, but I thought that the addition of Luden's Echo would be the "compensation". Instead you make his Q a skill-shot. This makes farming easier for skilled players but a harder laning phase for New Players, my personal opinions is that this is a nerf to Veigar. The E change came totally out of the blue (or purple?). The delay may seem short but this leaves anyone with even the slightest mobility free from harm. I am aware of the little counterplay a point-click stun has, but anyone could simply stand in the middle and be fine. The R nerf was small but had a huge impact on Veigar. After watching the Patch Rundown I noticed that the balance team has been "raging" at the high damage veigar's ultimate provides, but it made me sad to see that Riot Staff could be so hypocritical. I would like the balance team to not only experience playing against champions, but also as them, I can't imagine who played 5.4 Veigar and said "This is fine I can never E this needs to go to live". The entire idea of veigar is to (as stated in the patch notes) "blow this fool up"! and I loved that about him. But any AD mid could easily counter Veigar's ultimate.Veigar's win-rates and pick-rates have dropped dramaticaly since patch 5.4. I am aware of some kind of buff in a future patch, but as a veigar main I feel the pre-5.4 veigar was fine withought DFG. Please revert 5.4 changes.

Best regards (still lovin' the game)

Summoner Mathlete86

EDIT: I feel like he's somewhat playable, but he's shifted from and early-mid game monster adapt blowing up single targets with a full combo, which basically any mage that isn't behind can do. Now he's a mid-late game team-fighter. His role has shifted dramatically.

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CalmN2 votes

He was totally benched, OMG he is simply unplayable, even after 5.9 patch when he got some extremely minor "buffs" he is still trash tier, i actually lost being fresh d5 with 80% win ratio when i was grinding there and lost in mid at bronze 4 with friends acc, with every other champ u can finish game in less than 20minutes, but veigar is TRASH, he cant fight back in lane he cant do anything, farming Q is unrewarding unless you do it for 30minutes ignoring everything else happening in game. You actually need to farm 350~ ap to only get back what they took from your ULT ratio.

A champion which cant do ANYTHING early game, he cant fight back, he can use only ONE skill, trough-out the game he can use TWO, unless you get 1.5k ap you are running trash, except good in clustered fights, but there he is still medicore, cant win any duel in any state of game, untill u start to actually one shot people, even sona/leona full support would win vs 0-15lvl veigar 1v1 scenario. I have no words everyone went silent and moved on, but i couldnt, i cant they ruined him completely and they HAD THE NERVE TO CALL IT COMPENSATION BUFFS. AND told "he now farms so much ap that we had to lower his ratios, his damage output vs AFK players are too high" But if you arent brain dead you will never get hit by two of his skills. He is still squishy as ever with no defense mechanisms now without cage you are free frag always and whenever you misplay just slightly.

Simply unplayable a champion which cant fight back all early game and is just medicore in late/mid game

Whats the point to even pick him? The answer is - NONE.

High skill/work - 0 reward.

The only champion i consider so UP that you cant even win with it in bronze if players are aggressive enough. Trust me out of curiosity i tried most underplayed champs, urgot, poppy etc all of them were decent, but veigar is simply a guy which "loses laning phase and every duel there is for 30minutes so he can afk farm and make a game 4v5, only to be at late a lesser leblanc in terms of burst, but squishy, immobile and easy to get killed"

A champion which is only good if you expect to get carried but if thats your strategy you are better off with lissandra and ori, afk farming which are a lot better in every stage of game and in every given situation and composition.

I saw a lot of big riot fails and fu.ck-ups but this one was hands down the biggest. Second goes for evelynn when she was nerfed to shit tier, but there at least was reasons because they didnt know how to balance her and she was abused, but veigar, veigar... I have no comments and they had a nerve to call it "compensation buff for dfg loss" Dont forget that one in patch notes "he have too much dmg now so we nerf his ult ratio...." good one, hilarious, i Guess veigar could work in EUW where servers are burning frequalently then maybe enemies wont run away from his "too much dmg from - u will never land your W. never. Mechanics"

I mean if you made his stun so hard to hit in laning phase and 1v1, defensive situation why you dont make it worth? Even if you go out of your mind and play exceptionally well to get SOMEONE stunned you still cant do A thing to them. All league champs are easier to play and give a lot more reward than veigar does now. I mean it was HUGE nerf, he wasnt nerfed he was BENCHED but the most annoying part of it all is riot approach to it they try to dumb everyone and call it "COMPENSATION BUFFS." And laugh from their loyal players which loved veigar,

P.s fun fact of the day: To this day all known high elo veigar mains either dropped him or left league of legends. maybe thats an indicator to see that you failed big time?. Good job Rito good job.

ro vamp1 votes

Totally agree man

Trídent1 votes

hes balanced mostly

he has a pathetic early game, but he is a terror in mid game team fights. At my level, he's actually really strong

CalmN1 votes

Anyone which isnt lazy can shi.t on veigar all day long in laning phase and leave him with 10 cs. He cant poke back, cant fight back, cant farm under turret early game he is shit. tier how can u even be usefull w/o afk farming 30mins, his mid game is trash, unless you decide to clusterfuc.k in one place and stay afk there for 0,5s and even after that he have no real impact as AP mid, your enemy mid will most likely out-perform veigar in every aspect, damage, utility, cc, etc. If u need aoe stun for clustered fights annie/ lissandra will do it 10 times better than veigar with a lot more damage, safety, laning presence. Now veigar have 0 means to escape, he had his stun and it was hard enough to survive with it, now if veigar lose flash he better stay at the turret 5 mins because he is running free frag, i think he is number 1 champion which is easiest to kill. Everyone have some kind of utility or anything to help them escape, chase.

Yes i cant think of anyone else, diana have shield, slow, gap closer, fiora have speed burst, yep Veigar is the only champion in league of legends with 0 means of escape, except flash, to sum things up pretty much a free frag vs competent enemies.

Extreme Troller1 votes

i dont like veigar anymore, riot can rework him into a adc i will not care.

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