So, I main top, and like most lanes I want to think I understand my own role. Sometimes it's hard to get feedback in game with what goes right versus what goes wrong. So I wanna ask the community, whether you are support, jungle, mid, top yourself, or adc, what do YOU want from a top-lane player. Do you want them to push their tower down early? Teleport bot at lv 6 and gank? I highly doubt there is a right or wrong answer, I just wanna hear different opinions :)
I'm gonna throw this in mostly because I don't really see it here, but please have a reason for the summoner you take. Many people take the meta summoners because they know those are good summoners but don't know why or use them right. If you play riven focused on snowballing super hard and go all in at level 2 I'd rather see you take ignite than tp and shut the enemy down hard, since if they have ignite and you take tp you probably lose the level two. If you're playing a tank and want to afk farm in lane go tp and play it safe on your tractor till you can join team fights mid and late game with tp home guard or a deep ward behind them squishies. Just think about it and have a reason so you at least try to use it right.
I like a top laner who makes an impact. Whether it's by beasting up after 6 and terrorizing other lanes (e.g. 
, 
, pretty much anyone with 
) or becoming such a powerful pusher that they can clear a path to an inhibitor on their own, and therefore pull in several opponents (e.g. 
, 
, etc.), I want a top laner who can exert pressure that's felt across the map, regardless of where they are. I try to gank every lane, including top lane, and I usually expect that to pay off in some form or another via more power later in the game. Lane bullies can be good, but I generally prefer champions who have more pull in the mid- to late-game.
"What do YOU want from top lane? " I want him not to be bronze.
Sincerely, http://www.auplod.com/u/uaopdl525dc.png
As diamond top laner, your goal should be to win the game.
How you do that depends on the champions in the game, and your elo.
For example, if I'm playing hecarim in bad tier, my goal is to get first blood, roam mid immediately, get a kill easily, then back and teleport into enemy jungle and get a third kill, then just extend my lead by roaming all over the map post 6 where i can just ult my enemy toplaner and kill him because he doesn't know how to handle it.
If I'm playing hecarim in good tier, my goal is to shove lane hard, ward enemy jungle with pink ward and farm/push hard until trinity while teleporting bot if I can get easy kills. After I push out top lane I'll grab tower, harrass enemy jungler and mid lane while taking all the scuttle crabs i can for map vision while building jungle item for HP, then CDR.
2 entirely different plans for entirely different elos. Certain champions in the game will change my plan and how I impact the game to be the most efficient.
If you want to be a really good top laner you have to know how to play any way you have to and know when you have to do certain things. Control Hecarim vs Clippity Cloppity Hecarim is a good example.
But what I want from a top laner is generally just to do all they can to screw over the enemy jungler, midlaner, and enemy top laner, even if it means putting themself behind as well. General rule of thumb:
Top lane -> put enemy behind (annex their homes and burn their children) Mid lane -> get yourself ahead (roam to get yourself ahead) Jungle -> get everyone else ahead (roam to get others ahead) Support -> get everyone else ahead (roam to get others ahead) ADC -> get yourself ahead (roam after enemy tower gone)
but this changes in the meta and what champion you are playing.
I want a top laner who isn't a meth, uh, I mean CS addict.
Peers over at
"Yo man, this CS is wicked bro, you should totally come and do some CSing with me."
I want an aggressive ADC and support top.
Brotations®
(I'm being serious)
I main jungle, so I'll offer another jungler perspective, for what it's worth.
All I want is for them to know what they picked, who they picked against, what it means, and what we will logically expect. Do not pick Garen into LeBlanc because "Garen has a silence", do not pick Nasus into Teemo because "MMMMM stacks". NO. You will feed, you will fall behind, we will die. If you pick a bruiser/tank PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go into a fight first. None of us (minus maybe support or jungle) are going to be as tanky as you because you had a solo lane. We will built damage though. So you tank, we spank. Ol' Sword'n'Board style. If you go full tank Cho'gath and hide behind ME (I always play damage unless I get shoved really hard, can't trust teammates to hit the right targets etc) I will be furious. DO NOT HIDE BEHIND YOUR DAMAGE! STAND IN FRONT! However, if you pick a control mage- please. Control yourself =P. Don't go yolo-swag-master into 1v5. Too many Lulu's think they can 1v5 with a single whimsy. And I have no idea why.
~That's my 2 cents. You asked what we wanted, that's what I want. =) I want someone to keep me alive so I can make things explode. BD BIG RED NUMBERS. =)
I just want the ridiculous idea that top lane is an island and can't carry to die. I've seen too many Irelias, Hecarims, Swains, and Vlads go 2/0 off a few early ganks and then use that lead to snowball hard and solo carry the game.
I used to main ADC, now I main jungle. I'm primarily speaking as jungler.
-You can take whatever summoners you want, just use them correctly. -Itemize correctly. I don't care what your preferred core is. If you're Malphite versus Rumble, you probably want MR earlier than usual. -As a jungler, I'd prefer to not gank top. I like it as an island land (and I treat it as such when I play top). But if you do want/need ganks: ward and stop pushing. I don't want to see you letting the enemy freeze while crying for ganks lol. Unless we have MASSIVE dive potential and vision on the enemy jungler, just let them push. -If you're losing fights, stop fighting. It's okay to lose lane. No one's perfect. -If I explain that dragon is up in 45 seconds, please save your TP . If you have it, of course. -If you're up against a Nasus, I'm probably not ganking altogether. He just wants to farm, he shouldn't be bullying you too much. If you freeze lane and I'm on that side of the map, sure I might gank once or twice. But I can be elsewhere on the map, than fucking around with a Nasus. -Don't expect a gank top if I'm currently bot. Unless I have a global ult. -Ward. I said this already.
I apologize, this kinda turned into a rant. So let's end on a higher note: do your job as a laner, whatever that is. Don't rely on the jungler, but you can ask for help if you need. Just, listen to them if they give you instructions on making ganks easier.
To provide a role that is missing among the team based on the other team choices (really, this should be communicated between everybody, but top is heavily affected by this). A bruiser building glass cannon with three-four squishies on their team is not optimal (I even saw a Darius build infinity edge once...).
To assist their team as needed, farm as much as they can, split-push if and when necessary, surprise gank when the opportunity arises, keep their enemy laner from roaming and snowballing, warding the top half of the river and a few strategic wards when necessary, and be a team player.
Top lane is the team DAD. You can be the dad that leaves to buy a pair of boots six years ago, or you could be the dad who takes time off work to visit his kids in bot lane and beat up some bullies trying to shake them down for lunch money.
I want him/her to not pick Nidalee.
1.) dont die 2.) call mia and TP 3.) have TP for dragon/objective Contest 4.) know where the minimap is and be prepared to TP somewhere we need you 5.) Discover wards and upgraded trinkit - ward river and enemy buff camp choke point 6.) Above all else, dont blame the jungler for all your troubles
thank you and good day
As long as my top laner doesn't feed (or otherwise feel far less effective/helpful than the enemy top laner), I don't care what they're doing. It could be top lane splitpush Bard or Entertainer Nautilus for all I care, as long as that player does well.
I want him a) not die. b) be enough tanky for teamfight. c) Focus on objectives. d) have fun.
I want them to stay out of the jungle. Why has nothing been done about them taking a camp early on then teleporting top with level advantage?
I main support or jungle.
My biggest issue is positioning. If their entire team is pushing the inhibitor turrets and my top is farming or just starting to chip away at the first tower. Situation gets bad really fast.
-Late teleports -Zero pressure in lane and refusing to push when their opponent is roaming (I understand freezing but you're also there to make your enemy lose gold/exp) -Lack of map awareness (If I warded my buffs and your lane is sitting there, a bit of help would be nice)
Not to say that every top laner carries these flaws but I see these with a staggering and painful consistency. And when pings are issued or cries for help, they usually get so defensive and rude.
I want them to push their lane, and take the first tower, maybe even get damage onto the 2nd one. I find that whenever my top loses lane and his/her tower, the enemy top/splitpusher often can take the 2nd and even the inhib tower. I also want them to BUILD TANKY. I do not play games with assassin/marksman tops anymore, now that we are entering the League of Tanks I want as many as possible on my team. If they have won lane and taken the enemy turret, I want them to go mid, maybe get a kill, and take the mid tower too. After that early game, I don't want them stuck top, I hope that they will come and help bot lane push as well, and get dragon with the team. Should a fight break out, they either need to be with the team, or take the tier 2 turret top(does not have to be top). If they don't do either, then they were completely useless for those 2-3 min that they were not doing either. These may seem like harsh expectations, but you asked, I answered. If you can do all this, you know how to do VERY well in the top lane.
teleport from top when the enemy midlaner tries to bother the jungler, support, and adc in a fight at drag. Or if they need help in general
I just want to see more champs viable. Champions that were strong S3 like jax, renekton, tryndamere are not that great anymore. Even late game, they just get shut down by CC. I main top and I'm tired of seeing tank vs tank.
The problem is you cannot push towers early. Try hitting the tower at like level 3. Your damage output is 20-30 damage every auto. There's so much armor in the turrets. You have to reach around level 7 or 8 to push. Watch the final game between FNC vs UOL. UOL did the gank top and push strategy and it failed so hard. They couldn't take the tower with 3 members. It was just sad to see. Riot needs to change the armor on the turrets.
I don't mind different summoner spells. In fact, more diversity is better.
Warding the enemy's jungle is really important. What about Scuttle Crab? I wonder how Junglers are with taking the baron crab for vision. I know top lane tower isn't essential or even important in some games to take (Mid is much more important), but what about defending it? I know a few players have a different opinion on when or even if it should be defended (the outside one). I personally like to prolong it's fall unless its for a greater objective such as dragon.
