This game is honestly fucking terrible right now

Smug Diana OTP·11/17/2018, 8:37:20 AM·87 votes·19,576 views

In the past 30 games, I have counted at least 25 of them in which one or more players were hard inting, griefing and doing everything in their power to ruin the experience for the people on their team, both enemy and my own.

I think it's safe to say what loses you games more often than not at this point is the rampant, out of control toxicity and grief mentality. It's the default response at this point. You disagree with someone in pregame or in game? They start griefing. You lose first blood? Someone starts griefing. You get ganked and have a bad start? Someone starts flaming you and griefing, and it isn't exclusive to just your team, this isn't another "boohoo I lose every game because my team sucks!!" post, I see at least once almost every game someone trolling or grieifing, in some form. Winning because the other team has someone who is 1/10 and just trolling isn't fun, and losing when you're in the position is soul crushing and makes you feel like shit.

You can't even say anything to these players without getting punished. A month ago I was banned for two weeks because I called a 1/14 hard griefing jungler in my ranked game human garbage. Was that a terrible thing to say? Yeah, it was, but I was mentally defeated after losing like 4 games in a row prior to that to the same fucking thing, getting a player on my team who decides its easier to troll and grief than to actually use their brain. My point is the fact you literally can't even defend yourself from these people anymore, you say anything to them and you get in trouble, you ask for them to be reported and they flame you and then make it something in after game lobby about how horrible you were to them and that you need to be reported, ect. Then they go onto troll and int more games and ruin it for even more people, while god forbid, if you said something even remotely not nice to them for their abhorrent behavior, you get chat restricted or banned for 2 weeks.

Please, for the love of god, when Season 9 comes please make an actual effort to do something about this. This game isn't fun anymore, I don't know a single person having fun, I know people who are way higher Elo than me too (I'm only Gold) who are in Diamond and one guy in Masters who also fucking hate playing this game right now.

TLDR; This game has become about who can troll and grief harder than actually playing the game itself and it's depressingly not fun. Today alone I played about 11 games with a friend and in 9 of those games someone, on either my team or the other team, was trolling and griefing and ended the game with an insanely int score like 1/10+ - winning (and losing) no longer feel like they're a natural part of the game, more "The enemy team has the griefer so we're gonna win" and vice versa. Very, very rarely do I ever play a game in which the skill of everyone involved was what determined the victory or defeat. Please actually make an effort to do something in Season 9.

UPDATE

I've played 3 games so far today, everyone of them was plagued with griefing. Lost one because of inting afk jungler. This game isn't even playable anymore.

Second Update

I've lost every game today because of trolling, and it's always the same excuse. "Lol it's preseason bro who cares hehexd"

League is unplayable

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

120 Comments

Snugglesnacks11/17/2018, 12:12:53 PM30 votes

The game's balance is so atrocious that it's no wonder people are griefing more. Perhaps if it took more than a second to 100-0 someone or a tower, maybe people wouldn't be losing their minds. I think those people should just stop playing and let those that enjoy the current state of damagefest to go at it. League of Legends doesn't feel like a casual game anymore; it's just pure stress. Casual players might want to look elsewhere. It also doesn't help that it's a crime to be new at the game where even in normals and ARAM tryhards are just bitching and flaming everyone to hell.

Jamaree11/17/2018, 8:43:34 AM17 votes

Now were they ACTUALLY griefing, or were they just sucking and having bad games because there is a difference.

Daddy Ants11/17/2018, 3:19:02 PM8 votes

Preseason is where everyone suddenly switches off and the game becomes unfun to play.

Marshbouy11/17/2018, 3:39:22 PM8 votes

I've been experiencing this too and I think it is mainly due to the preseason/late in the season problem where everyone who didn't play ranked for most of the season comes out of the woodwork and tries to 1v9 every game. Unfortunately a lot of the people who try to 1v9 every game are the same people who say stuff like "you didn't help me in lane so I'm going to ignore every teamfight."

I've been reporting 2 or more people every game for toxicity, griefing, or just straight up inting. It's crazy.

EsoEs11/17/2018, 4:55:27 PM6 votes

In my last 15 games I had:

  1. Nunu ADC running it down tower diving mid at level 3
  2. Ashe ADC who won lane but got butthurt because she got roamed on, and just perma-pushed lanes until someone came to kill her.
  3. Heimer top who purposely mimicked my every movement (following me to lane, following me as I tried to swap lanes, following me as I AFK'd)
  4. Kennan + Diana bot lane (smashed ofc)
  5. Numerous blind pick Teemos who got hard countered and lost us the game
  6. Kindred ragequit at level 2 bc lost the scuttle fight
  7. probably more that I'm not remembering

Legit impossible to climb when 50% of my games are hard-trolled, griefed, or unwinnable at champion select.

Searington11/17/2018, 5:54:27 PM3 votes

What I'm about to say is probably very obvious and straightforward, but...

If you say bad things to those kinds of people, you're only making it worse. They will get even more pissed off or more satisfied (some people will really enjoy you calling them whatever, since that proves you're mad, and they want to see you're mad). It's not the right thing to do because not only is it bad for yourself, but for all of the other players and the overall game and the community health, because as you stated, they will proceed and troll harder next game, and that will generate more frustration, more insults, more trolling.

The right thing to do? Maybe only try to reason briefly. Some people can be reasoned with even when they get mad about something, but you need to use the right words. If that doesn't help, you just mute and report quietly.

If you act equally as butthurt as them and start a war on the chat, in my opinion your behavior is worth a report too.

Aroses11/17/2018, 10:07:34 AM3 votes

You are not wrong, Im gold 4 and get 2 players who were completely new and right out of bots and they go top then int.. while saying "Were new to ranked and were gonna int enjoy :)"

deadlychuck11/17/2018, 5:04:03 PM3 votes

Now imagine how many players riot would lose if they decided to actually ban players who are now in this mindset overwhelmingly due to their own dissatisfaction with the state of the game.

Also I'm simply shocked that the system put in place to try to punish players for their unapproved behavior, has been manipulated into being used against people who want to punish players for their unapproved behavior. Don't demand that the report system work on the people you want it to... demand the player behavior reporting be removed, then they can't report you for flaming them.

ModCaptainMårvelous11/17/2018, 6:16:49 PM3 votes

The worst part I've found is that people tend to just make excuses about their attitudes. I don't care about griefing when it's obviously someone just being a dick. Report and move on. The worst part is that people take some sort of moral highground to why they're griefing. Blame the team. Can't blame the team? Blame the champions picked. Can't blame the champs picked? Blame the game/Riot. That's the most frustrating part to me that people act like they're some sort martyr, griefing to raise a point against our team or to teach Riot a lesson when they're really just being dicks.

LtnJohn11/17/2018, 4:36:46 PM2 votes

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In the past 30 games, I have counted at least 25 of them in which one or more players were hard inting, griefing and doing everything in their power to ruin the experience for the people on their team, both enemy and my own.

I think it's safe to say what loses you games more often than not at this point is the rampant, out of control toxicity and grief mentality. It's the default response at this point. You disagree with someone in pregame or in game? They start griefing. You lose first blood? Someone starts griefing. You get ganked and have a bad start? Someone starts flaming you and griefing, and it isn't exclusive to just your team, this isn't another "boohoo I lose every game because my team sucks!!" post, I see at least once almost every game someone trolling or grieifing, in some form. Winning because the other team has someone who is 1/10 and just trolling isn't fun, and losing when you're in the position is soul crushing and makes you feel like shit.

You can't even say anything to these players without getting punished. A month ago I was banned for two weeks because I called a 1/14 hard griefing jungler in my ranked game human garbage. Was that a terrible thing to say? Yeah, it was, but I was mentally defeated after losing like 4 games in a row prior to that to the same fucking thing, getting a player on my team who decides its easier to troll and grief than to actually use their brain. My point is the fact you literally can't even defend yourself from these people anymore, you say anything to them and you get in trouble, you ask for them to be reported and they flame you and then make it something in after game lobby about how horrible you were to them and that you need to be reported, ect. Then they go onto troll and int more games and ruin it for even more people, while god forbid, if you said something even remotely not nice to them for their abhorrent behavior, you get chat restricted or banned for 2 weeks.

Please, for the love of god, when Season 9 comes please make an actual effort to do something about this. This game isn't fun anymore, I don't know a single person having fun, I know people who are way higher Elo than me too (I'm only Gold) who are in Diamond and one guy in Masters who also fucking hate playing this game right now.

TLDR; This game has become about who can troll and grief harder than actually playing the game itself and it's depressingly not fun. Today alone I played about 11 games with a friend and in 9 of those games someone, on either my team or the other team, was trolling and griefing and ended the game with an insanely int score like 1/10+ - winning (and losing) no longer feel like they're a natural part of the game, more "The enemy team has the griefer so we're gonna win" and vice versa. Very, very rarely do I ever play a game in which the skill of everyone involved was what determined the victory or defeat. Please actually make an effort to do something in Season 9.

agree with you flaming and toxicity need to stop, i'm lvl 32 and i stop playing of league of legends like 2 month ago because of that and everytime i open the game i scare to play and get flaming or toxic, i dont have alot of EXP on this game and i dont do ranked its too much for me but i love this game, but i can't play anymore alone i need full team of player i know in real life if i want to keep playing it, i still Watch some new update if something change

sure i can all mute them but i know is not the right way to do

my main champion is Ahri i'm very good with her and i try other champion and toxic start up ...

P.S. sorry about my English.

Bμbble Butt11/19/2018, 4:31:57 AM2 votes

I'll just leave this here. . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2iB5YEGwec

SociopathFriend11/17/2018, 7:11:50 PM2 votes

Ironically, I virtually never come across that level of toxic behavior in Blind...

KingBlackthorn111/18/2018, 12:24:54 AM2 votes

I cannot relate. Maybe you are just toxic and annoying so peope give up when they are playing with you?

DW Diana11/18/2018, 7:48:04 PM2 votes

Its kinda what is to be expected when Riot release a video starring 2 champions they go out of their way to ignore playing with troll builds and say "try something new!" Played with a Rammus Sej botlane yesterday... by 7 minutes they were 1/10, with the 1 being me roaming down on Diana and Sej flashing to ks me. Like my 4 year old son, Riot need to think before they speak.

Death by Glamour11/17/2018, 5:30:05 PM2 votes

its been pretty shit for the past two years lets be honest

we go from one extreme to another

Horrible Human11/18/2018, 12:31:36 PM2 votes

I had a game today where my team refused to surrender, they were all like 9 deaths, just inting. Then saying they won't surrender and game will be as long as possible. ( Which wasn't much longer because at least you can't actually defend that. )

The other two had someone cursing and insulting others non stop. Oh... and then I did a bot game to chill out, and someone in there talked trash all game too. Just wow.

Great game but shit community. Time to kill does not matter to me. Griefing does.

HungryAngry2SPP11/18/2018, 5:56:58 AM1 votes

You do realize you are playing normals?

ApollyonBainer11/18/2018, 8:56:47 PM1 votes

So this post is about the players and not the game though. Just to clarify your point