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MMR problems in Diamond.

I Hate Love You·2/28/2019, 1:42:59 PM·25 votes·13,360 views

So, I already played 300 games this season... in the begging.. yes, LP gains were too big, and after you lowered that you made climbing impossible for normal mmr diamond players.. I mean I keep getting 9-12 Lp per win and losing 23-25. My winrate is 55%. Never got more than 3 loses in a row in the past 100 games and I'm still earning low amounts of LP. I know the system wants "hardtsuck players" to be hardstuck but i never had this problem in 3 years. I'm playing in diamond elo from season 7, going up and down between d5 and d1, and yes, sometimes i experienced low LP gains and stuff but after like 4-5 games winstreak mmr went back to normal (+18, -18).

Sure, I know i need really good winrate to get past diamond, but that's not the idea, Im trying to get out of d4!!! Played more than 100 games in d4 because i can t earn more than 12 LP. even if I win more than how much I lose.(considerably) Example: From d4 0LP to d4 80LP i got 16 wins and 4 losses. And after those 20 games, my LP gain is still low. I will honestly quit soon probably if you dont do something about the system... don't get me wrong but i don t feel like playing if I already know my minimum winrate for climbing is 70%, which i will never get, because I'm not that good.

Also, in the past season i could limb to d1 without any problems with 52% winrate. And I know I'm not the only one having this problem, some of my friends already quited temporarly because of that..

I know you want to make climbing through diamond harder than other elos, but don't make it impossible for d4 players who are just slightly better than the majority.by slightly i mean players like me, sometimes in high diamond, sometimes in low diamond, but never master

I really love and enjoy playing league and I honestly ant to keep playing it, but if this thing persists, I ll probably give up and stop wasting time

Well, I hope someone from riot will actually read this and do something about it, I m really hoping to see some answers soon. Thank you for your time, and sorry for my English, I'm still learning it!

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20 Comments

excelsheet12/28/2019, 6:22:43 PM2 votes

Just play better and win more.

Ragnaveil2/28/2019, 5:08:18 PM2 votes

What I don't particularly get is why they need to throttle LP gains in Diamond. Do that shit in like, D1 or something, not D4. People trying to climb in D4 are already at the mercy of people who hit diamond and just troll because they hit diamond and thats all they wanted for the season. Also, not to mention that they just added another leaderboard rank on top of Masters, so that should, idk, do the filtering the LP throttle doesn't need to do anymore?

Eunson2/28/2019, 11:37:19 PM2 votes

Same, already quit.

GigglesO2/28/2019, 4:38:56 PM2 votes

I’m getting +16 right now and -18. It started at +12,-22.

I suppose I have to play 1k games or have an 80% win rate before riot let’s me climb.

Meanwhile my off roles in plat 2 and plat 1 are +28,-10 I guess riot just wants me wasting time playing every role to diamond.

Kurorade2/28/2019, 2:12:43 PM2 votes

Same for me man, I can only obtain around 15-16 LP while losing literally 18 every game. I won my first three Diamond games in a row and only was given 45 LP, keep in mind I also have a 60% winrate. This is complete bullshit on how they nerfed LP gains for Diamond.

BLiSSproject2/28/2019, 9:18:17 PM1 votes

This isn't restricted to Diamond, btw. In mid gold here, and with a 70% win rate in support I'm gaining 12-13 lp and losing 21-22. Meanwhile, my Jungle which is at 48% is gaining/losing 18. Rito plz explain

Farm With Jayce2/28/2019, 10:51:42 PM1 votes

I had this problem on my main account. I was Diamond 4 on it, got there pretty easily, then all of a sudden my LP gains went from 22 to +16. I won, the lost 5 games in a row and got demoted back to plat 1. Got back to D4 again within 6 games, then only got 13 lp and lost 21 lp per loss. Like how the fuck are you supposed to rank up unless youre playing on a smurf with 80% wr in diamond. Actually makes no sense, not to mention Diamond elo is filled with players who dont belong there because of the matchmaking being bugged. I had a game where my team has a gold 1 35% wr mid laner against all diamonds, and of course he lost lane hard. I was just confused as fuck at the logic behind him being on our team. So ranking up in Diamond feels mostly based on luck now instead of skill, really depressing.

Fat Ass From NA3/1/2019, 8:09:50 PM1 votes

not only in diamond, in gold as well. my team feeds like no tmr( and ragequits). and no they're not gonna read your message, and continue to do nothing.

Glasha3/2/2019, 8:33:53 PM1 votes

Same here. 61% winrate in D4, gaining 15 LPs per game. I know a guy with 47% winrate in D4, if he wins, he gets 2 LPs, I didn't know that could be possible.

Starcraft243ver2/28/2019, 3:56:29 PM1 votes

https://i.imgur.com/I5ZEYqF.png

I see a lot of posts about the fact it's hard to climb from D4

So as you can see, D4 represents 1,64% of the total players of LoL D3 represents 0,36% of the total of the players.

Now even if every single D4 player was better than the current D3 players it would mean that there's only 22% of the current D4 players that could be D3. Because there's just not enough room left for all of you in D3.

As you noticed you are a lot to experiment this, and having 60+% winrate and still not climbing. But this is actually the problem. If 25% of you have 60% winrate in D4 and there's only room left for 20% of you in D3, having 60% winrate is not enough to climb.

You need to be better than the players around you in the ladder, not to be better than the average :)

Neptunia xoxo2/28/2019, 6:20:52 PM1 votes

The mmr system and LP system for Diamond has always been horrible and I have no idea why it's not been fixed yet tbh.

5StackUltOneShot2/28/2019, 6:45:04 PM1 votes

Im D3, gaining 15-17 lp a match losing 20ish

BigFBear2/28/2019, 8:08:09 PM1 votes

"I know"