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Junglers don't gank ffs

Lightning I·6/5/2018, 3:19:32 PM·4 votes·1,902 views

In the last 5 games, I barely got 2 ganks while the enemy jungler just keeps ganking my lane even if I'm not pushing. I put wards and I freeze and all that shit but the enemy jungler just happens to be some gap-closing whatever champion you want and still manages to get me before I escape. I either flash or die.

Meanwhile, our jungler just so happens to play it safe and farm most of the early game and ignores us every time we call for help. I've tried asking some nicely, I've tried shouting at them and I've tried offering to gank with them (if I play mid) but No, nothing.

I already know what the comment section will be like: "by analyzing your data on op.gg and observing how you're low elo, we can reach the conclusion that you most likely don't ward. We are 100% sure the enemy laner had wards in the bush and the river and there is absolutely no possible way your jungler can gank. If your jungler had ganked at any time they would have surely been counter-ganked even if the enemy jungler was somewhere else"

Wtf is up with that mentality? So, the enemy jungler can gank all they want but it's just too dangerous for our jungler to gank? Don't give me that shit, I've tried playing jungle and 90% of the time ganks were successful. I only died because of bad plays since I'm not used to jungle champs.

If you don't want to gank, go play another role, there are plenty of safe champs out there. Otherwise don't ruin games just because you don't gank. [sg-ahri-3]

12 Comments

dunder kill6/5/2018, 3:22:01 PM3 votes

Then stop afk shoving. You're obviously not freezing like you say you are or there's no way you keep dying to ganks. Underleveled Junglers cant dive you under turret, sorry

Erïx6/5/2018, 4:51:52 PM2 votes

PRETEND LIKE YOU DONT HAVE A JUNGLER AND YOU WILL DO BETTER

BugsBunny936/5/2018, 5:56:37 PM2 votes

Well, if your jungler isn't on the scuttle and isn't making an effort to get it, then let it be. Obviously, some junglers are better at ganking than others. Master Yi for example tends to just farm until hes level 9 and then start ganking every 3 seconds. A Graves that doesn't gank could be just farming and trying for a mid-game spike. Now, if he is avoiding lanes that are getting behind and are being killed under turret by constant ganks, its probably because he's preparing to confront them when he has items, he doesn't want to feed them, or he is angry at you for feeding. Some great advice I saw earlier in this thread would be to play like you have no jungler. I average the highest ward placement (even above supports) every game in any of my roles. Wards are literally the tipping point to winning lanes. Just because your jungler isn't ganking and getting kills (bronze-silver's idea of what winning is) doesn't mean you are not getting farm fed by spending 15-20 mins in lane getting 150-200 cs. Maybe your jungler is focusing on one lane to try to snowball, or maybe he's trying to snowball himself without. I agree, sometimes, afk farming junglers can be annoying. However, remember that they have to stay in jungle longer and be more efficient at the same time now. Sometimes by the time I hit level 6 straight farming, the top laner or mid is already hitting lvl 9. This is not defending the obvious bad junglers that are bound to be in your games and mine. Sometimes, even wording a sentence can get a gank. "Gank me pls" or msising pings send a bad message that the jungler interprets that you think it's their fault you are over-extending and feeding. Maybe a "Hey Graves, could you gank me in a bit? Struggling with this laner."

BugsBunny936/5/2018, 3:55:41 PM1 votes

If you haven't read the patch notes for the last 2 patches, I'd advise doing so. Jungle xp got hardcore nerfed making it very hard for junglers to gank early without simply feeding. Junglers like Diana or others who don't get decent ganks until 6, have a hard time making it worth the time. A huge problem right now is that laners refuse to leave lane to help a skirmish at scuttle which is critical for a jungler to hit lvl 3 early. Graves, for example, doesn't suffer as much because he has insane dueling potential even at lvl 2. For a mid-late game jungler, this is a nightmare when he is constantly invading you or securing scuttle when if top or mid lane had rotated, could have potentially started a snowball on you. Spamming your jungler to gank when he can barely stay 1-2 levels behind your lane opponent is only going to force them to gank and then die when all you had to do was play safer. It's not always the jungler's fault. If you can't manage a wave or farm under turret till at least 6, then you ought not be criticizing your jungler for struggling with the weak jungle xp.

Erïx6/5/2018, 4:53:14 PM1 votes

When I quinn jungle, I hit all 3 lanes before there jungler typically does there first :)