LP/MMR needs a tweak

Lil Lewd Witch·Dec 2, 2015·3 votes·1,003 views

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Yi game: - 17 Malphite game: +10 Garen game: -22

All while my MMR is above average for the league according to multiple sources. There really needs to be a performance rating that factors into LP per game. The Garen game, my bot lane started 0/4 each and bickered over warding and would not cooperate with the team. So of course I get to lose the 22lp for it no matter how well or hard I tried to carry..

Heck, I almost had more damage more damage to champions done than the enemy bot lane combined.

Sort of QQ, sort of an issue I really hope gets fixed.

12 Comments

Wolfram OxfordDec 2, 20154 votes

Welcome to Elo Hell

Best Valor NADec 2, 20152 votes

LP gain and loss is kinda tricky, if you lose like 10 games in a row then you're going to be losing more LP per loss, and gaining less LP per win. But if you go on a winning streak, you'll be gaining more LP per win, and losing less LP per loss. thats how the gaining/losing amounts work. But I agree that they need to factor in performance into the method of LP gain/loss.

Lil Lewd WitchDec 2, 20151 votes

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LP gain and loss is kinda tricky, if you lose like 10 games in a row then you're going to be losing more LP per loss, and gaining less LP per win. But if you go on a winning streak, you'll be gaining more LP per win, and losing less LP per loss. thats how the gaining/losing amounts work. But I agree that they need to factor in performance into the method of LP gain/loss.

Oh definitely, and I've fallen quite a bit so I don't think my LP should be free. ONly getting 12 for the malphite game seemed fair since I really didn't do much, but then getting almost twice that taken away from me out of the blue when I was normally only losing 15-17 per game and gaining 20-22

Very Hard EngageDec 2, 20151 votes

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Oh definitely, and I've fallen quite a bit so I don't think my LP should be free. ONly getting 12 for the malphite game seemed fair since I really didn't do much, but then getting almost twice that taken away from me out of the blue when I was normally only losing 15-17 per game and gaining 20-22

if we look at your overall history you're over 20 games out (48% win rate overall), and you're currently winning about evenly against an average of silver 4~silver 3 players(what your MMR groups you against), but you are currently situated at gold 5. (your LP ranking)

so yea, LP gains/losses is working as it should for you, the only thing here is you are incapable of falling from gold 5 (unless your MMR falls further down to the bronze 1 level).

so raise your MMR by destroying those silver 4 ~ silver 3 players and when your MMR finally reaches where you are currently seated, then you'll notice you gain an even amount per win/loss.

me on the other hand, since im the opposite of you, i gain +28~ +32LP per win, and lose only like 12. because im climbing and snowballing. and although im in gold 5, i primarily play with gold 2 ~ plat 5 players.

Lil Lewd WitchDec 2, 20151 votes

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if we look at your overall history you're over 20 games out (48% win rate overall), and you're currently winning about evenly against an average of silver 4~silver 3 players(what your MMR groups you against), but you are currently situated at gold 5. (your LP ranking)

so yea, LP gains/losses is working as it should for you, the only thing here is you are incapable of falling from gold 5 (unless your MMR falls further down to the bronze 1 level).

so raise your MMR by destroying those silver 4 ~ silver 3 players and when your MMR finally reaches where you are currently seated, then you'll notice you gain an even amount per win/loss.

me on the other hand, since im the opposite of you, i gain +28~ +32LP per win, and lose only like 12. because im climbing and snowballing. and although im in gold 5, i primarily play with gold 2 ~ plat 5 players.

Well that's part of the issue, my MMR isnt consistent, mines jumping to 1500 to 1300 for no reason so Im never getting matched the same way twice, so I go from gaining 22-30 lp to sudenly nothing, and thats part of what needs fixed

Very Hard EngageDec 2, 20151 votes

thats just what losing/winning streaks will do, like if i go lose 20 in a row, id trash my MMR and id have to go and win like 20 more in a row to put it back to normal.

or id have to play for example like 60 games, and win 40, lose 20. (win 2-1 ratio) and then id go back to whatever MMR i had.

Lil Lewd WitchDec 2, 20151 votes

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if we look at your overall history you're over 20 games out (48% win rate overall), and you're currently winning about evenly against an average of silver 4~silver 3 players(what your MMR groups you against), but you are currently situated at gold 5. (your LP ranking)

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Looking at Lol skill, only 1 out of my last 10 games did I underperform, all the rest I am in the green in most stats. But only come out of it with a 50% win rate. The cait game, 3 afks at 15 minutes just standing around arguing, guess who gets punished for them doing that? Me. THAT is what is frustrating as hell, I know it's a team game but its SOLO queue. It needs to rely on what YOU do an not the lottery of "Do I get the troll?"

Very Hard EngageDec 2, 20151 votes

no1 cares if you go 50K / 0D , the fact is you lost. and thats what counts. you have to transfer your higher performance into a win.