Adding more downtime to a game is the LAST thing you should do in terms of fun.

Vith·Mar 23, 2016·149 votes·3,939 views

Please Riot listen to your community. Longer death timers was not a good decision.

40 Comments

Only Play DariusMar 23, 201617 votes

Ehh, death timers warranted a slight extension, but only by about 4-5s. The new death timers are complete overkill

Slamurai JackMar 23, 201615 votes

I love the long death timers and weak towers. Makes it so easy to actually win games rather than slowly waiting for the enemy to lose the game. Season 5 was way too forgiving of bad play and it's about time Riot fixed that.

Vellich0rMar 23, 20166 votes

towers need to be strong early though. Buff tier one towers early to prevent cheese, and leave the snowball mechanics on tier 2 and inhib towers (though a slightly stronger tier two would be preferable.) This way, early gains can be taken advantage of, but 4 v 1'ing a turret at 3 minutes is a shit idea.

LuciferMar 23, 201614 votes

I shouldn't be able to go make a bagel in the middle of the game at 25-30 minutes because my death timers are so long.

forrestoMar 23, 20168 votes

somebody should make a montage of themselves doing all this crazy stuff, and being back in time for the daeth timer.

ElysMustacheMar 23, 201613 votes

Stop dying.

LankPantsMar 23, 201645 votes

Brilliant.

I'll be sure to post this on r/koreanadvice

HayRossMar 23, 201616 votes

Oh, wow that is a real site

KnoyleMar 23, 20165 votes

Karthus heh, please.

CanidaeMar 23, 20167 votes

Maybe people will finally figuring out that suiciding chasing a kill just to say "wurf" isn't gonna help your team get ahead or contest objectives.

U really want to get better? Try making those "plays" w/o dying and not give the enemy team a chance to catch up.

Like...the system is literally trying to use negative reinforcement to show ppl the disadvantages of being dead, but instead people would rather whine and ask to be rewarded for poor decisionmaking. This is like how reddit was complaining about how teams used lane swapping in the LCS cause it means that players fought less often.

forrestoMar 23, 20163 votes

you've played this game in low elo before right? people don't learn from their mistakes most of the time. adding more punishment for mistakes will just cause those ppl to die more

ChaoticPineconeMar 23, 20163 votes

And (if youre stuck there), you are probably making the same mistakes so you arent climbing. YOU are the one being punished for your mistakes because YOU are dying. If you arent, them you should be climbing out of "low elo" (unless, of course, you concede that you belong where youre at)

forrestoMar 24, 20161 votes

I take full ownership of the fact that I am a scrub, never said I wasn't. I suffer from tunnel vision, and bad map awareness as much as anyone.

Starcraft243verMar 24, 20161 votes

Well, i dont.

forrestoMar 24, 20161 votes

congratulations? if you're playing against these same kinds of people though there's certainly some reason why you're down here with us.

Starcraft243verMar 24, 20161 votes

I'm plat 1, i have a very good map awareness and no tunnel vision problems. This being said i'm quite bad mecanically.

forrestoMar 24, 20161 votes

wow I guess it happens in all elos. actually I'm not even sure why you felt compelled to respond, I thought I was talking to the comment OP this whole time XD

DaBaiXiongMar 24, 20161 votes

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ChaoticPineconeMar 24, 20161 votes

I'm a Korean American born in the SF Bay Area who lives in Boston.

but nice try.

billxxMar 24, 20161 votes

You just roasted him

DeathBot666Mar 23, 20169 votes

I agree 1000%. My strategy in every game is "don't die". I even tell my team my master plan on occasion. Problem is in low ELO no one ever follows it.

ZeurthMar 23, 20161 votes

mfw people who say low elo aren't smurfing

NilokMar 23, 20161 votes

The problem is the other team is dieing too easily and long. The games are boring.

DemoGuideMar 23, 20166 votes

Long death timer are acceptable in dota - with buyback, and map is bigger, and nowadays even dota towers are better i believe (have not played for months). But in the LOL - feels so stupid and dumb.

SeenanMar 24, 20161 votes

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Long death timer are acceptable in dota - with buyback, and map is bigger, and nowadays even dota towers are better i believe (have not played for months). But in the LOL - feels so stupid and dumb.

Dota towers are weaker, but shoot supremely faster and have a much bigger range. And they actually take a fair while to die.

Clumsy BobbleMar 23, 20165 votes

I agree.

I recently won a game were my team was not working well together at all, and the enemy team was stomping us because we managed to win a team fight at our mid inhibitor, then cut through 4 towers, an inhibitor and the Nexus without the enemy team able to retaliate at all. It felt cheap honestly, like as if I didn't really deserve that win because we were playing so poorly compared to the other team.

ayNigerianPrinceMar 24, 20162 votes

Must not be in low elo then. Wouldn't have taken any objectives if you were ;[

AbusingMyRightsMar 23, 20164 votes

I'm trolling but, you can always go for the "% less time dead runes" lol

IchinoseMar 23, 20163 votes

Longer death timers = More care to play for less dying.

xStormaggedonxMar 23, 20162 votes

Didn't they hint they would do something about that in the next couple patches?

San5SanMar 23, 20162 votes

Agreed...longer time dead is not the way for anyone to enjoy the game. Always liked the longer games myself anyhow. Had an hour long game game today and it was a blast. Enemy team was 10+ ahead in kills but we kept taking objectives when we could and a late baron won it for us.

For me the quick 30 min games are not as enjoyable even if we win. Late game full builds are much more fun.

Sahn UzalMar 24, 20162 votes

#MakeDeathTimers~~Great~~ShortAgain

Find Your SantaMar 23, 20161 votes

New death timers wouldn't have been half a bad idea if the enemy team couldn't roll all the way from the 1st paperboard turret to the inhib in 40 fucking seconds

Sythriel DrakenMar 23, 20161 votes

It's not the longer death timers that is the issue, but it's more of the fact that during the 30-45 seconds you are dead certain champions can take 2 towers and an inhibitor in that time span.. hell, I've had games where two champions have won the game by killing 4 towers 2 ihibitors and the nexus in that time..

S6 is a meta of just "snowball with 0 chance for the enemy to come back". There are currently no way for the enemy team to come back unless an outright throw happens. towers don't do jack in the base as you can get a garen and soraka and take down a tower without minions and without garen losing little to any health..

it's kinda sad.

Lady HammerlockMar 23, 20161 votes

honestly it should cap at a certain time because it makes overfed teams absurdly frustrating you die everytime>spend 70% of the game dead

WutsKrakenMar 24, 20161 votes

1 good fight gives a massive advantage to one team that is almost unrecoverable to the other. This literally makes an even game suddenly a loss with 1 teamfight

1 kill in lane gives an even bigger advantage than it has in previous seasons

Weak towers that don't protect from level 4 jungle dives help the snowball

Kitty ClarissaMar 23, 2016

oh yea thats is fun, 14 min death timer 30 sec.. yea i lose my tower off that push and its kinda BS . lol... i avoid dying normally