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League losing it's mojo at an alarming rate.

TheStabulous··56 votes·2,302 views

I'm all for an update to the old rune/mastery system, but the new rune system just isn't ready to go live. I play on commercial, but feel like a beta tester. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they rolled this system back for as long it takes to iron out all of the issues. Isn't this what the pb server is for? Just because it's not crashing people's rigs doesn't mean it's ready to RTM.

As for now, I've uninstalled to remind myself that I don't want to log in for at least a month or two. And it's distressing because I've been at this for years, and like many of you I'm thousands of dollars in, but I just don't like the way it feels anymore.

Anyway, I just wanted to let my humble opinion be made known.

46 Comments

KazaJhodo14 votes

I agree that league is losing mojo, but I would argue its due to its ranked ladder matching, not runes. Its preseason, we expect calamity, or.. should.

Ulquiorra01231 votes

Its been this way for a year now, ever since dynamic queue placed people where they shouldn't be.

Panic4Who10 votes

Can I have your stuff?

Velzard of Koz4 votes

He said for month or two (preseason). Not that he quits permanently. Reading too OP, nerf plz.

Neo Metalsonicv27 votes

Thousand dollars?

Jesus I did play in season 1 but only put 30 euro in. The first time I got a punishment from the failbunal was when I stopped supporting Riot at all. If they want their SJW course for the game, fine, but I won't buy anything.

I have a lot of disdain for Riot, they are terrible developers who primarily recruit failed talent from Blizzard. Also the popularization of the word ''toxic'' by Riot makes me wish Los Angelos was destroyed tomorrow by the fat shortie from NK.

Mhihnj1 votes

I haven't spent a dime on league yet and i have been playing the game for 2 years

Morendabanus2 votes

I love how lefto cucks are just dvoting you for having an opinion

Automated Riven1 votes

Yes. It takes a left wing person who's significant other sleeps with someone else in front of them to down vote someone for wishing an entire city of millions of people gets killed. Simply to remove a game company.

Stands to reason I guess. /S

Morendabanus1 votes

LA is more a city of monkeys than people.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

"Yes, it takes a left wing person whose significant other sleeps with someone else in front of him to down vote someone for making a joke that offends his sensibilities, usually because he's getting upset on behalf of someone else."

Fixed that for you.

Automated Riven1 votes

There is never a good reason to wish a full city gets nuked by anyone.

The Yetii Rider1 votes

You literally are proving my point. He made a joke and you're trying to be a downer on his fun twice now. Just let those who enjoy that sense of humor enjoy it. If it's not your business you don't need to butt in and criticize.

Automated Riven1 votes

People rarely make jokes during complaints in my experience. That being said. If it was a joke it was in poor taste. Would it seem to you a good joke if I said I would like to cut your families throat because they did something I don't like?

The Yetii Rider1 votes

Shitty jokes are still allowed. It's better than assuming some edgelord actually wants an entire city to die for no reason. You'd have to be an idiot to think he wasn't joking.

BooBoo Custodian1 votes

Same. I quickly learned their scheme of banning accounts hoping peoples addiction for the game would make them buy the same skin twice. I've spent maybe $50 since season 1. I don't trust them with my money, and their unrelenting greed makes it hard to throw money at them at this point.

Tearin True1 votes

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Thousand dollars?

Jesus I did play in season 1 but only put 30 euro in. The first time I got a punishment from the failbunal was when I stopped supporting Riot at all. If they want their SJW course for the game, fine, but I won't buy anything.

I have a lot of disdain for Riot, they are terrible developers who primarily recruit failed talent from Blizzard. Also the popularization of the word ''toxic'' by Riot makes me wish Los Angelos was destroyed tomorrow by the fat shortie from NK.

You have played a game you think is horrible since season 1? If riot can keep someone like you coming back they must be doing something right

Kal Vas Flam6 votes

Bro just play normals and have fun with it. It's exciting to try new things. Stop being such a bitch.

ZURELL5 votes

i dont like the fps bug that plagues my gameplay. i've found other ppl with the same problem. but theres no hotfix yet. i dont like waiting for patches when the need for buffs n nerfs is high and bug fixes. cuz im tired of my fps being at 16 when it's usually at 60

PowderToast5 votes

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i dont like the fps bug that plagues my gameplay. i've found other ppl with the same problem. but theres no hotfix yet. i dont like waiting for patches when the need for buffs n nerfs is high and bug fixes. cuz im tired of my fps being at 16 when it's usually at 60

wait is this a thing? because I have been seriously racking my mind trying to figure out why the game randomly seems sluggish .... I check my FPS and such and it doesn't seem to spike but I am always hard lined in to my internet and this never used to be a problem only now with the new patch.

ZURELL1 votes

yea i've started five threads about it and havent gotten one rioter to reply ....

TheSh0tCaller4 votes

You are obviously new to this game. Every pre season is a horrible mess and this one is the best pre season we actually ever had. You weren't around for Black cleaver, Feral Flare, The god cinderhulk and the Ancient Golem, the ezreal spirit of the elder lizard to make these claims on the game dying. We also don't know what rewards we get for level 40 45 50 yet, it could be Blue essence AND multiple champ shards (maybe 5), it could be BE and keys for chests with capsules. Pre-season is also a time where they work on 500 things at once before season goes live. We are all technically beta testers ever november-january. This is normal every season.

Blåbæret3 votes

This is the worst preseason by far lmao. Gta love Rito fanboys.

ModAcademy Kayn3 votes

The reason it hits Live, even if it seems strong on PBE, because PBE sucks at assessing strength. Most players are on trying out skins, the Ranked system is barren, and the credibility of players on PBE has lead to things like Reworked Skarner. This may be lessened, since Riot has opened up PBE to more people but there aren't a lot that play PBE seriously.

Now you can argue about the internal testing team, but that's a whole nother argument in general.

Prestige Eve2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dr Mercy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6K5Xxigw,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-11-12T07:55:39.482+0000)

The reason it hits Live, even if it seems strong on PBE, because PBE sucks at assessing strength. Most players are on trying out skins, the Ranked system is barren, and the credibility of players on PBE has lead to things like Reworked Skarner. This may be lessened, since Riot has opened up PBE to more people but there aren't a lot that play PBE seriously.

Now you can argue about the internal testing team, but that's a whole nother argument in general.

Why do people keep saying PBE sucks at assessing balance? Sure it's not as good as live balance assessments but everything is still there. We knew Kalista was broken before she was released, thunderlords was problematic, these runes were going to make champs too strong, etc. How many times do people have to be right about PBE based assessments before you or Riot starts taking it seriously? We might as well just not have PBE, if everyone is going to gain what people say their like it's a joke. Almost everything that has ever been deemed to be OP or too weak on PBE has been correct, so why pretend it's never been reliable before? I mean, seriously?

PBE BALANCING HAS BEEN WAY MORE RELIABLE THAN NOT

Edit: It's this kind of ignore PBE thinking that causes the game to get broken whenever shit gets forced out despite everyone prior warning

BambooWorld3 votes

Go ahead leave

Jerry SeinfeId3 votes

PBE is for bugs not balance.

megarexs1 votes

And yet bugs like the fps issue or the one with Kayn with predator bug somehow make it out of the pbe even though they are reported on that forum. Heck when they reworked poppy, she had a bug where her shield throw would cause her to cycle animation and she would refuse to auto until a skill was used. this was reported day 1 and was not fixed until 3 patches later.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

I played rework poppy on release quite a bit, I never experienced that bug. If you mean 3 PBE patches during the same cycle then that's perfectly fine, bugs don't fix themself and there might have been other more pressing matters or new bugs while fixin it.

As for kayn, yes a bug slipped through. Idk if it was reported during PBE I don't really check bugreports. but there's always gonna be bugs that get through.

ChargeItDownMid3 votes

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chipndip11 votes

Remember last pre-season?

League of TLD?

Yasuo/Trynd and Bloodlust?

Oh the PAIN fun!

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

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chipndip11 votes

That's the crazy part, honestly.

Strawberrycocoa3 votes

They need to either do a game wide buff to armor and resist flat stats or reduce the damage output, because I keep getting nuked to death at level 1-2 and it's so fucking dumb.

Scary Door2 votes

What's a "tank" ? I've heard of this concept, but what it is again?

PowderToast1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Scary Door,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6K5Xxigw,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-11-12T13:52:22.377+0000)

What's a "tank" ? I've heard of this concept, but what it is again?

"meat sponge" is a common term.

megarexs1 votes

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"meat sponge" is a common term.

"meat bag" is a better one! [vlad-salute]

DrAtomMagnumMDPh3 votes

Resource for the enemy team to lifesteal.

TheOnlyJoe2 votes

League is not losing it's mojo lol. Anyone whose been on the boards for a while and isn't busy cirkle jerking will have noticed that these "League's going downhill, becomming unfun. Im uninstalling" threads pop up every once ina while, and genuinely do not end up making a difference

korg0232 votes

I always considered myself a person who will very hard quit league for short or long period of time but after this preseason patch from IP to BE change to shitty fps drops i uninstalled it. I bet many people like me did the same and Riot is seeing those numbers, that is my friends how you ruin a good game over the years by supidity and not listening to community on time.

Yalathanil2 votes

How does one define/measure "mojo", because it is vague and undefined.

Anyways, i like the new system and am having fun with it. Preseason is the time to balance the rune system as the PBE is for testing bugs not necessarily balance the new introductions.

XIII Vanitas2 votes

People keep saying this every year, but LoL is still the most played moba with an evergrowing playerbase.

PowderToast1 votes

Yeah, I am on the edge having finally had my first level up and feeling severely underwhelmed and after most games I win by rolling all over enemy leaving me feeling unaccomplished while the ones I loose feeling overwhelmed by the fact I seriously cannot go 10 minutes without either a 3v2 or a 4v2 bot lane anymore ...

I am really saddened by this but I think you have the right idea, not quitting just uninstalling for well ... as long as it takes.

Vei1 votes

its preseason fam

PBE alone isn't enough to test out the balancing, merely the potential bugs

ENRAG3DCHICKEN1 votes

People will never leave. Despite how poorly Riot treats them they've already invested so much money in this game they're practically shareholders with shares.

Sure they just got diluted with the devaluation but they still own so many cosmetic trinkets already.

3K Zero1 votes

I pretty much agree, and what ticks me off the most about the new system, is that it cannot achieve anywhere close to the scale the old system could. and i also dislike not being able to modify stats of whatever champ i'm choosing, because some champs really just suck without a better lv 1-3 experience, and things like armor runes or attack speed runes were extremely useful in making some champs viable.

Some champs are so weak at level 1, that without the old rune system, i don't even consider them playable.

another example of this; with the old system i could get up to 41% bonus attack speed at lv 1 w/ all attack speed runes. The max i can get now with the new system is 18% at lv 1.

WEANUS PEANUS1 votes

PBE is mainly for bug testing, not gameplay balance.

There is no mmr in the PBE like in the live game which means that there is more than likely always an imbalance of skill, which means that it's an inadequate setting to judge gameplay balance. You also need to consider that there is only one PBE server shared among all regions which means a lot of players have to push through high pings.

This is is why it makes sense to bring out big changes at the end of a season (although I understand you can still play ranked and raise/lower your mmr). Riot could consider shutting down the ranked ladder completely during a preseason but I don't think it would go over well with the playerbase.

I don't agree with all of the changes to the game so far but I just want to clarify to people that the PBE does not exist for balance nor should it.

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