Singed + Ludens Echo = ???

Ragnar42·Mar 12, 2015·5 votes·8,461 views

Honestly, it feels like it was directly created by someone who loves and wants him to be happy again.

I wonder if I wonder if Ludens will supplant in his normal build?

16 Comments

Very Hard EngageMar 12, 20156 votes

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BluePolarizerMar 12, 20152 votes

Patch 5.8 notes: Singed Q now deals 1 damage. As compensation its mana cost has been decreased by 1. This will separate the good Singed players from the great Singed players.

Leti the YetiMar 12, 20151 votes

thanks OP

RIPsinged2015

DreadlocksMar 12, 20151 votes

Holy shit looool.

SleepyLionCubMar 12, 20151 votes

DAYYYYUM I was gonna stay playing singed anyways.

UPfreelyMar 12, 20151 votes

Teemo

DomainSpecificMar 12, 20151 votes

I think it would be great as a 3rd or even 4th item. Buying it early will delay him getting tanky. Maybe sit on the (small item that gives MS) before you build it.

MidEvilKnight3kMar 12, 20151 votes

It doesn't stack the passive every time he damages someone with his poison does it? I get that it's an AP item that gives speed which he likes, but it sounds like there is more to it than that.

BonkMonkMar 12, 20151 votes

I think it only charges when you actually activate poison/q. The dot ticks don't count as spell activates. at 100 charges it may activate on spell(hits) though.

Wait what? This is gonna be hilarious when chasers get killed this way.

however, overall I think this is still not THE item for singed. He needs to get tanky and there are better items that give him better stats overall: ROA/seraphs, Rylai's+liandry combo and some resistances(at least 2 items). Maybe you can replace the rylai's/liandry combo with the improved Righteous glory and luden's, but I don't think it will be better.

Ragnar42Mar 12, 20151 votes

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I think it only charges when you actually activate poison/q. The dot ticks don't count as spell activates. at 100 charges it may activate on spell(hits) though.

Wait what? This is gonna be hilarious when chasers get killed this way.

however, overall I think this is still not THE item for singed. He needs to get tanky and there are better items that give him better stats overall: ROA/seraphs, Rylai's+liandry combo and some resistances(at least 2 items). Maybe you can replace the rylai's/liandry combo with the improved Righteous glory and luden's, but I don't think it will be better.

Right now my standard build is: item 3070 item 3116 item 3151 item 3265 item 3075 item 3065

item 3800 summoner 6 R is lulzy, but The Dive Helmet's Stats are sub-optimal (maaaaaybe after this next patch it'll be better?)

The Build is the Inverted Composer/Druiddroid optimized standard build, which give Singed the most optimal build path to do the most damage, be sufficiently tanky, and when needed, 1v1 just about every ADC in the game. The Thornmail is the key to the ADC Dueling lategame.

Since The item charges when you're moving, and as a good Singed you're always moving, I figure this will be up just about every time you engage.

The Secret is when you're level 18 and full build, you sell the tear, typically for a Rabadons. I think that Luden's Echo is the final piece here.

Ragnar42Mar 12, 20151 votes

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Right now my standard build is:

R is lulzy, but The Dive Helmet's Stats are sub-optimal (maaaaaybe after this next patch it'll be better?)

The Build is the Inverted Composer/Druiddroid optimized standard build, which give Singed the most optimal build path to do the most damage, be sufficiently tanky, and when needed, 1v1 just about every ADC in the game. The Thornmail is the key to the ADC Dueling lategame.

Since The item charges when you're moving, and as a good you're always moving, I figure this will be up just about every time you engage.

The Secret is when you're level 18 and full build, you sell the tear, typically for a Rabadons. I think that Luden's Echo is the final piece here.

I will also spam the SHIT out of Q if i have to.

BonkMonkMar 12, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Right now my standard build is:

R is lulzy, but The Dive Helmet's Stats are sub-optimal (maaaaaybe after this next patch it'll be better?)

The Build is the Inverted Composer/Druiddroid optimized standard build, which give Singed the most optimal build path to do the most damage, be sufficiently tanky, and when needed, 1v1 just about every ADC in the game. The Thornmail is the key to the ADC Dueling lategame.

Since The item charges when you're moving, and as a good you're always moving, I figure this will be up just about every time you engage.

The Secret is when you're level 18 and full build, you sell the tear, typically for a Rabadons. I think that Luden's Echo is the final piece here.

Depending how far I am ahead(or not), I finish seraph's pretty quickly, for more ap and a nice bait shield (should be attainable at the 20 minute mark). If you replace it entirely, you'll be missing out on a bit ap 250 health and the (situational) shield.

7% movespeed however is really nice to heave.

Meep ManMar 12, 20151 votes

Luden's Echo is upon casting, not dealing damage.

Im not sure if it would gain charges from toggling his Q on and off, but it wont be gaining crazy charges. It will still proc if you damage them with your Q with 100 stacks I believe.

Ragnar42Mar 12, 20151 votes

It also charges upon moving. I just tested it. It's ALWAYS up on Singed. but it's not as good as it might seem, as you REALLY have to manage your Q in order to make it hit the champions you want it to hit, instead of becoming some sort of super wave clear, because it won't prioritize champs over minions.