Juggernaut Rant

OneExit··4 votes·1,144 views

Preface: This is a semi-rant so don't downvote, or leave nasty comments just because you don't agree with my opinion. Now onto my rant! Ok let's go down the list of all of the Juggernauts now. Skarner has had to be HOTFIXED, because Riot did such a great job re-working him right guys? I haven't fought a Skarner yet; therefor, my rant on him ends here due to lack of experience. Hmmm.... Let's go onto Mordekaiser next. He can literally ONE-SHOT a tank, and he can out duel any other champion sans maybe Darius, or Garen (For obvious reasons). I played Hecarim into this guy. Hecarim of all champions who's typically fairly lane dominant, and uses that to roam to other parts of the map snowballing his team. I was pushed under tower all game. Mordekaiser then at level six chunked me for 75% (maybe closer to 80%) with a single skill, flash+ult+ignited me for an easy kill. I already had some tanky bits of items on me too; it wasn't like I was a squishy Lux, or something; I was Hecarim. Next broken part of Mord is his Dragon. So he managed to snag one early, and pushed down mid. This THING chunked my whole team, and the enemy team then proceeded to tower dive, get kills, and push down our mid inhib. (Note: this was a top lane Mord I wasn't doing some weird Hec bot kind of thing). Next is our quad of broken re-works is Garen, or as I call him screw-you-if-you're-snowballing-cuz-winning-isn't-allowed. It's a long name I know, but I think it's accurate. I was playing Rengar this game (Rengar top). I styled on this guy; I went 3/0/0 in lane with a final score of 10/3/6 the game in question. I like the idea of the villan don't get me wrong, but true damage IS NOT the way of implementing it. Story time! Ok so they were Baroning I stealthed, and jumped in assassinating Ahri, but not before a whopping 21% of my health was done in TRUE DAMAGE simply because I was the villain at the time. That's balanced right Riot? Don't you worry I saved the best for last, or the worst in this case. Darius.... This champion... I abhor this champion... Every Darius I've every played with has been toxic, and every enemy Darius just bullshits his way through the game even if you manage to SOMEHOW kill him in lane; which by the way IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE ALREADY. You gave him basically a free pentakill as his passive's passive, his damage is so front-loaded that I think I see power tools outside getting jealous. MEDDLER WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?! You want to buff this cancer giving scum bag's laning phase?! His laning phase is already more toxic to fight than Teemo's signature darts! HE HAS A MASSIVE TRUE DAMAGE ULT THAT GETS A RESET!!! WHAT WERE YOU THINKING WHEN YOU DESIGNED THAT RIOT?! Rant over; my final opinion of the juggernaut update: the items need nerfs to their numbers, the champions all need heavy nerfs, and gone unchecked I believe that this could actually kill League. I absolutely love this game. I love playing it, but some of the thing Riot has done baffle me. Tweak these things right, and we can have better champion diversity as well as item diversity. (Note: Yes I am bronze; it's because I don't play ranked much, but if you think me being bronze means I don't deserve an opinion then you need a reality check. This is MY opinion, and if you don't like it you don't have to agree with it.) TL;DR: The "Juggernauts" as Riot calls them are ALL ludicrously overpowered, and deserve heavy nerfs ESPECIALLY Darius despite what Meddler says. I love the game, but please balance these things.

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Yosuke Apperu3 votes

I'd rather fight juggernauts than someone with sated devourer :P

Hell Week2 votes

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I'd rather fight juggernauts than someone with sated devourer :P

i rather kill someone that can actually be killed with a devourer than not being able to even tickle a skarner.

Yosuke Apperu1 votes

Haha that's silly... Really... Go fight a sated devourer Shyvana... or yi, vayne, jax.. or kayle. You lied... YOU CAN TICKLE SKARNER but that's it.. but you can't even tickle a kayle.. If it's vayne have fun taking an addition sixteen percent of your max health as well as six botrk procs in three autos XD

Hell Week1 votes

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Haha that's silly... Really... Go fight a sated devourer Shyvana... or yi, vayne, jax.. or kayle. You lied... YOU CAN TICKLE SKARNER but that's it.. but you can't even tickle a kayle.. If it's vayne have fun taking an addition sixteen percent of your max health as well as six botrk procs in three autos XD

do you not know how to beat a kayle? really? disengage when she ults, wait for her E to go CD... THEN go ham and eggs on her. Super easy after that. Yi can be annoying, don't feed the yi simple. Jax is pretty weak early game take advantage of that and don't feed. Jg vayne, invade her jg and take her farm and eat her while she builds her items. Easy.... but ofc all that isn't always under your control. Skarner atm is tanky at all freakin levels, pretty good damage, and that slow and ult is too op.

Hell Week1 votes

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do you not know how to beat a kayle? really? disengage when she ults, wait for her E to go CD... THEN go ham and eggs on her. Super easy after that. Yi can be annoying, don't feed the yi simple. Jax is pretty weak early game take advantage of that and don't feed. Jg vayne, invade her jg and take her farm and eat her while she builds her items. Easy.... but ofc all that isn't always under your control. Skarner atm is tanky at all freakin levels, pretty good damage, and that slow and ult is too op.

skarner is stronger than shyv atm imo, and for udyr... try not to let him farm or take turrets.

OneExit2 votes

I completely agree sated has the potential to be even worse. Especially on someone like Udyr, or Shyvana who gets tanky anyway.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

as rengar youre an assassin.

tbh you shouldnt be able to fight a garen or any more tanky champ for that matter head on anyways. its suppsed to take teamwork to deal with him. in addition you tried to fight him with a champion who specializes in taking out squishies with burst damage. defense is supposed to counter burst.

you have utility. a lot of it. stealth, hard cc, a gap closer, in combat sustain. now look at garen. hes a concentrated package of tankyness and damage with heavy restriction to melee range. hes literally not good at anything else.

so even if youre ahead becaue of a couple of outplays doesnt mean you can just stop respecting him and expect to sit in his spin and outdamage him.

the juggernauts were described as carry type champions who are unusually tanky to offset their limit to melee range and low mobility. think of him like riven without stuns and instant gap closers. of course he needs to deal more damage, since in a realistic scenario his damage is more unreliable and an enemy will make it out of the spin halfway through. at least you should have if you used a bola.

i think part of the reason why garen has such a high winrate right now, is that people severely underestimate his improved lategame. theyre used to watching him snowball and not caring much, because he will eventually fall off.

theyre probably going to nerf him now, but i have the feeling he might need buffs again after the adjustment period is over and people recognize him as a serious threat into lategame and start reacting properly to him.

OneExit1 votes

1 You're a Garen main your opinion is immediately invalid in this case 2 He shouldn't have been tanky, because I 0/3'd him in lane 3 You're profile is level 10; hush

GodLyke1 votes

I respect your rant but would like to comment if you don't mind. The point of the Juggernauts is to get to the back line and be a menace. You AREN'T suppose to 1v1 them. If you are playing correctly then you honestly don't even notice they are in the game, I know I haven't. I think you need to record some of your games and watch the replays. Find the mistakes that YOU made and correct them. Then you will have a better understanding on how to handle these menaces. :)

OneExit1 votes

While this is extremely true if you play someone like Jax, Riven, or Toplane Rengar who duel very well, and need to get an edge in order to be effective then a juggernaut simply has no counter play. As a side note do you have a replay system you would suggest; I've looked for one before, but I haven't had any luck finding one.

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