How to understand junglers without becoming a jungler ?

FullmuteAll play·Feb 17, 2018·1 votes·252 views

I am support main and I really like the idea of high map presence. Usually it includes roaming to other lanes and helping your jungler to destroy enemy jungle. But in low elo it is not common to have such rotations for support, so I have to make a calls to jungler of when to make a trap for enemy jungler.

To do so I need to somehow predict/know where enemy jungler is and when he is coming to certain place to kill him. Is there a way to get some sort of feeling this without learning jungler role ? because tbh jungling doesn't attract me.

Btw with roaming to other lanes I am fine (although I still need some practice).

6 Comments

PotchikirFeb 17, 20183 votes

Check where your jungler is The enemy jungler is usually in the opposite side

Keep high map awareness you get some changes where u see the jungler and his direction though wards or scuttle

AlienPrimateFeb 17, 20182 votes

Nearly all junglers in low elo will start on bottom side and work their way up towards top. It will generally be at 3 minutes that they finish their top side buff. This means they will either look to finish the rest of their camps, gank top or mid, or try to invade. I usually like to have my top laner ward over the wall to the top side buf at the start to make sure this is the route the enemy is taking.

After this, raptors are usually a common place for the enemy jungler to go. Most find them to be difficult to do on first clear so you can expect the enemy to do them either immediately after first back or at around 4 minutes. From this point on it really depends on the person playing jungle. There are 2 easy ways to track the enemy jungler. The first is the buff spawns. You can expect most competent junglers to take their buffs as they spawn and catch them there. If they are not competent you can just steal their buff and you come out ahead anyways. The other way is to have either your junger or yourself completely illuminate the entire bottom side of the jungle. If the camps are spawned and the jungler isn't there, you should be able to expect them in the near future. If the camps are gone and the jungler isn't, there is a high chance that they are on the opposite side or in your own jungle.

You will probably find it very difficult to get low elo junglers to work with you in this manner or to buy item 3711 to assist in warding the enemy jungler, but I hope this helps.

FullmuteAll playFeb 17, 20181 votes

Thanks It was useful Is there a way to know when buff spawns ? So for example he took blue at 5:40. How can I know the next time it spawns ?

AlienPrimateFeb 17, 20182 votes

If you look at the mini map there is an icon that shows over camps before they spawn. I'm not sure on the exact times so I won't just throw out false information, but white means it will spawn soon and yellow means it is almost up. I think it is 1 minute for the white icon and something like 20 seconds for the yellow icon but don't quote me on that. If I had the time right now I would make sure of the times before posting but I don't.

EschetonFeb 17, 20182 votes

Watch Jungler streams might help.

carcaroffFeb 17, 20181 votes

I'm low elo and here junglers in my team always suck. Especially kha and kayn, all funny, retarded idiots who play them first time because they saw someone did well with them.