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So can we get back scaling / late game / slower paced meta?

Get Outscaled·10/26/2019, 9:25:39 PM·120 votes·21,035 views

So since Riot is releasing new FPS game, could we get back our late game meta full of diverse compositions and champions on each role? All the players (children) who like fast paced games where teamfights last 4 seconds, tanks are dead thus teamfights have no actual construction and only 2 adcs are viable, can now go to FPS. Like really, why don't just all those players go to play overwatch or smth fast paced instead of supporting Riot in ruining League.

Those fast paced games have bad influence on players too. Surrenders rarely happened in the past but now you have surrender votes from 15 minutes until the end of the game because everyone is giving up If they lose lane. Players are simply not caring because the games are fast and they can go another in no time anyway. I cannot imagine what would today's community do in 1 hour game. Players lost attention and their attention span is about 10 or 15 minutes.

Now If I put all the hate aside, I think it would be really good move to satisfy players. There are still players like me who like diverse and long games full of long teamfights, even though a lot of them stopped playing league. So players like me would get to play those games and people who like call of duty type of games can go to play FPS. You simply can't merge all genres into MOBA.

I wouldn't even care so much If Riot didn't force the meta so hard but They literally said that they want to make games faster and all the changes are supporting the fast paced games. They literally gave minions higher movement speed and damage over time because god bless If the game went over 30 minutes.

146 Comments

Vlad Ex Ig 0 Pot10/26/2019, 10:37:10 PM39 votes

Preach ! I'm so sick of games already being over at min 10. I want 20min laning phase back.

Tuition Fee10/26/2019, 11:25:46 PM33 votes

Late game champs like Yasuo can beat your ass in during first ten minutes thanks to bullshit like conqueror and eletrocute. I say runes are a major issue, and the lack of defensive items vs true damage

Light of Madness10/26/2019, 11:16:18 PM32 votes

I had one 60 minutes game this season. In the end, everybody said.

Good game, finally one. Stuff like that.

Was good, hard a little bit of strategy from both sides. I miss that.

ChaddyFantome10/26/2019, 10:28:24 PM23 votes

i wish but that doesn't work in service to Riots LCSBIGPLAYS wet dream unfortunately

Blue Shift10/27/2019, 1:39:20 PM15 votes

Revert runes back to the first iteration.

According to riot the runes were "complicated, hard to balance, and didn’t give enough room to customize your playstyle or adapt in champ select.” (1)

This is just not true in the slightest, minus the runes not being updatable in champ select. The purpose of the runes and masteries were to supplement your playstyle, not define it.

The runes now a days are way too impactful.

"Forging a better Runes system first means concentrating the system's power into fewer choices so that each selection matters more. In the current Runes and Masteries systems, there are roughly 60 distinct slots, but very few of those choices have a significant impact on how your champion plays." (2)

Who at Riot and in the community actually thought this was a better idea than what we had?

Go back to the first version of masteries, not the warlords bloodlust/fervor of battle one.

(1/2) - https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/coming-preseason-runes-reforged

1 - In the first paragraph 2 - the very first two scentences of the second paragraph

Ozzie Storm10/27/2019, 5:00:15 PM10 votes

With the introduction of the Elder Execution i doubt they plan on letting games exceed the 35-40 min mark, let alone making games more slow paced.

KVbqbFsC8e10/26/2019, 11:33:23 PM10 votes

Why do you assume that everyone who likes fast paced games are children? Not everyone enjoys sitting through 50 minute losses.

Edit- Unsurprisingly, nobody has answered my question. There is no actual reason to believe that only "children" would enjoy quicker/faster paced games.

Violet Fields10/27/2019, 11:33:48 AM9 votes

I'm sick of games being decided from the lock in phase lmao.

DNFVixen10/27/2019, 12:32:10 AM8 votes

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So since Riot is releasing new FPS game, could we get back our late game meta full of diverse compositions and champions on each role? All the players (children) who like fast paced games where teamfights last 4 seconds, tanks are dead thus teamfights have no actual construction and only 2 adcs are viable, can now go to FPS. Like really, why don't just all those players go to play overwatch or smth fast paced instead of supporting Riot in ruining League.

Those fast paced games have bad influence on players too. Surrenders rarely happened in the past but now you have surrender votes from 15 minutes until the end of the game because everyone is giving up If they lose lane. Players are simply not caring because the games are fast and they can go another in no time anyway. I cannot imagine what would today's community do in 1 hour game. Players lost attention and their attention span is about 10 or 15 minutes.

Now If I put all the hate aside, I think it would be really good move to satisfy players. There are still players like me who like diverse and long games full of long teamfights, even though a lot of them stopped playing league. So players like me would get to play those games and people who like call of duty type of games can go to play FPS. You simply can't merge all genres into MOBA.

I wouldn't even care so much If Riot didn't force the meta so hard but They literally said that they want to make games faster and all the changes are supporting the fast paced games. They literally gave minions higher movement speed and damage over time because god bless If the game went over 30 minutes.

I miss the old game length, leagues hight was seasons 5 and 6. I miss when you REALLY had to think when playing. This game used to have so much diversity but they have steadily removed the diversity and forced people to play only one way on every champion except a select few who can be played 2 ways. I remember back when there was many ways to play most champions. Look what they did to WW Nidalee and Evelynn they removed their hybrid stats. I mained bruiser Nidalee and I mained AD Evelynn but now I can't do either due to removal of hybrid stats. Hell a lot of my favorite YouTubers quit because the game is boring to them now and it isn't because of how long they have been playing they literally quit because riot made the game boring to them by removing diversity.

nm101010/26/2019, 10:42:22 PM8 votes

Games that roll earth dragons become pretty tanky on PBE. I like it quite a bit. If riot would show dragon spawns in champ select we could plan a comp around them.

RavenMagus10/27/2019, 4:19:21 PM6 votes

and only 2 adcs are viable

As opposed to all the other seasons and metas, where only 3 adcs are viable?

That's just how ADC is. There will always be a couple champs who can right click better than the others.

Daddy Ants10/27/2019, 3:03:57 PM5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Get Outscaled,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=655oYE3q,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-26T21:25:39.119+0000)

So since Riot is releasing new FPS game, could we get back our late game meta full of diverse compositions and champions on each role? All the players (children) who like fast paced games where teamfights last 4 seconds, tanks are dead thus teamfights have no actual construction and only 2 adcs are viable, can now go to FPS. Like really, why don't just all those players go to play overwatch or smth fast paced instead of supporting Riot in ruining League.

Those fast paced games have bad influence on players too. Surrenders rarely happened in the past but now you have surrender votes from 15 minutes until the end of the game because everyone is giving up If they lose lane. Players are simply not caring because the games are fast and they can go another in no time anyway. I cannot imagine what would today's community do in 1 hour game. Players lost attention and their attention span is about 10 or 15 minutes.

Now If I put all the hate aside, I think it would be really good move to satisfy players. There are still players like me who like diverse and long games full of long teamfights, even though a lot of them stopped playing league. So players like me would get to play those games and people who like call of duty type of games can go to play FPS. You simply can't merge all genres into MOBA.

I wouldn't even care so much If Riot didn't force the meta so hard but They literally said that they want to make games faster and all the changes are supporting the fast paced games. They literally gave minions higher movement speed and damage over time because god bless If the game went over 30 minutes.

I want "early game" champions to fall off again.

Right now the likes of Pantheon, Miss Fortune, Lucian, Draven don't fall off anywhere near as hard as they used to.

Game would also need to no longer be decided in the first 10-15 minutes for a late game meta to come back.

Literal IRL Tree10/27/2019, 2:11:05 AM4 votes

Lol the delusional people who think when late game was the way to go it was "Diverse" go watch season 7 gameplay.