I feel like pantheon's Q should be a skill shot, or at least different.

Tryce Maxwell·Oct 11, 2016·8 votes·777 views

It feels like he's just able to throw down out his Q whenever his melee opponent gets within it's range for it. I'm trying my best to figure out how these "counterpicked" champs can outplay him and end up with the kill but I'm honestly stumped. He bullies them with Q and has his AA shield up for a winning trade, that aside, his aegis also procs his passive another time.

He generally starts corruption potion so the already low cost of his Q is even lower, allowing him to generally outlast his opponent and force them out of lane or outright kill them while they are flat out helpless to avoid it.

To be truthful, his Q is an odd ability for a champ like him. It pokes, but it feels like it is meant to execute with the critical below 25%. Should it be botrh? or just one or the other?

17 Comments

GimileeOct 11, 20165 votes

1.He falls off late 2. Pick a champ with sustain and cloth/pots as he drains his mana pool quickly.

McFatalOct 11, 20161 votes

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1.He falls off late 2. Pick a champ with sustain and cloth/pots as he drains his mana pool quickly.

he can always start corrupting and doesnt run around at all for such a damn long time.

GimileeOct 11, 20161 votes

I just dont fight him in lane that way he is pressured not to use it. just me though.

McFatalOct 11, 20161 votes

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I just dont fight him in lane that way he is pressured not to use it. just me though.

do you actually think i have the "i can win vs panth lane" mentality as a melee only top main? i go in max shield as riven and get as much cs as possible and dip. its hard tho when he can just dick u with a point and click and when his jungler comes he can tank a turret hit and dive you pretty easily.

legionnaire99Oct 11, 20161 votes

Darius can stand axe to spear with him

McFatalOct 11, 20161 votes

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can stand axe to spear with him

thats a skill matchup tbh. some panths dont kknow how to just poke then get out. some of them stay in q range and just jerk off as darius gets stacks.

a good panth will win vs a good darius tho.

legionnaire99Oct 11, 20161 votes

Nah you can never kill him dairus can stop your stun with his pull and heal in your E unless you lose allot of your damage

McFatalOct 11, 20161 votes

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Nah you can never kill him dairus can stop your stun with his pull and heal in your E unless you lose allot of your damage

you can get bc and kite the living fuck out of him if you're smart.

legionnaire99Oct 11, 20161 votes

Then it's dairus job to not let it happen also I go stromraiders so if I get damage off I gain so much speed

WarpesOct 11, 20161 votes

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he can always start corrupting and doesnt run around at all for such a damn long time.

that's with corrupting pot start already...

what kind of stooge goes anything BUT corrupting pot on pantheon? that's masochistic

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thats a skill matchup tbh. some panths dont kknow how to just poke then get out. some of them stay in q range and just jerk off as darius gets stacks.

a good panth will win vs a good darius tho.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

MunchCrunchLunchOct 11, 20161 votes

hes currently beating every single top laner except 1

DunkinNoobsOct 11, 20163 votes

Did you just complain about a champ that isn't Yasuo or Vayne?

AgeOfTheMageOct 11, 20162 votes

If they make it to that, then they should mae teemos q a skillshot

RalanrOct 11, 20161 votes

Turning it into a skill shot and changing nothing else would be a massive gutting. He needs a full VGU.

SeenanOct 11, 20161 votes

I think a lot of his power with Q comes from how much base move-speed he has. He outruns most of top-lane, so you can't really trade with him at all as he outruns you. So he Qs you, backs off...unless you were already heading towards him/have a dash, you may not even get to trade back.

RequiemsfireOct 11, 20161 votes

Pantheon is good at punishing people's mistakes by either being out of position or trying to force trade pantheon.

One time I was playing Pantheon top lane against Malphite and basically Malphite made a very grave mistake in not allowing his passive to regenerate between trying to collect farm so I just constant threw spears to stop it from regenerating and maintain the pressure. Then he did the dumbest thing and that was try and fight me level 1. He paid for that.

All in all, pantheon trades his early game power for his pathetically weak lategame.

WarpesOct 11, 20161 votes

another pantheon qq thread... a champ that isn't even remotely op and has very clear cut weaknesses and counterplay

learn to play against him and stop calling for reworks and skillshots every time u lose a lane/game