Teemo is rework-ready.

3theric··4 votes·846 views

I am a Teemo main. I've been playing him since I can remember (on 2 or 3 accounts), and one thing has stuck out. He's become under-powered mid to late game and hasn't had a real rework since v5.16

Teemo

Here are the problems I've found:

Q as it stands is basically the only damaging ability he has mid and late game. Sure, he picks up a few kills or assists because of people on 20 hp walking into shrooms, but that's about it. Late game, it acts as your ult because of it's damage potential with full ap. Blinds for some reason. The blind is extremely insignificant, based on everything I've seen. Lastly, it doesn't apply poison damage, even though it's a dart.

W is not an escape. A champion this squishy needs an escape. Even Ezreal has an escape, and he's not even a scout. It doesn't break you free from slows or do much of anything except give a slight speed boost.

E does not scale well and the poison damage early-mid and late game is almost to completely unnoticeable.

R as it stands does very little damage late game, even with full ap. Slows for some reason.

I've often thought, "Why does a giant dart blind people when it smacks into them, and why does a mushroom that explodes into a cloud slow people?" I believe it could be fixed with some tweaks and reworking his abilities to be more poison based and thus making him a more ap reliant champ.

Q could deal double or 1.5% poison damage on hit from his E and then slow the target, since it is a larger dart hurdling towards your enemy. Get rid of "on hit damage". It's dart, not a knife.

W could do something like turn him invisible for like 2 seconds and give a boost of movement speed so he has a better chance of getting out alive other than the small percent he already has. Maybe it could even leave behind a decoy shroom that fears all enemies for 0.25 seconds?

E could do much more poison damage over time the higher the ability level ["20/30/50/80/111" instead of the "6/12/18/24/30 (+10% AP)" it currently does]. It could also scale with "50%" of his ap instead of "30%" on hit. Get rid of "on hit damage". It's poison, not a bomb. It could also apply whatever magic penetration you have, but double it. Maybe.

R could blind people, seeing as it does explode into a cloud. It could also scale with "40% AP" instead of the current "12.5% AP".

Besides these changes, everything else is basically fine. With these changes, I think he would certainly become more fun to play, he wouldn't be as both underwhelming and underpowered as he feels and looks like when played, and may even be viable in LCS.

He would also become much more unique, since he would be the only champion whose abilities are almost completely poison based which fits perfectly with his lore.

5 Comments

3theric1 votes

This was my first time posting to the forums, so it may need a bit of work. item 3070

DJ Katarina1 votes

I understand your plight but as someone who plays a lot of melee tops i hate your champion.

nah fr tho if hes reworked i hope hes reworked to not be so anti-melee its not fun at all

Tryndamere vs Teemo I just build AP and spam q while standing just close enough to get xp :\ its not rly fun. There's probably better strategies but its the only one ive found to work for me

3theric1 votes

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I understand your plight but as someone who plays a lot of melee tops i hate your champion.

nah fr tho if hes reworked i hope hes reworked to not be so anti-melee its not fun at all

I get where you're coming from, but have you seen what happens to Teemo when played against a tank or adc's? He gets rekt mid to late game because he does so little. It becomes a 4v5 late game because he basically tickles the enemy champs. And don't get me started on junglers...

its not rly fun.

You know what's not fun? Having a champion that does so little because his kit is so backwards, you fear leaving fountain late game because the most you can do is kill minions and hope to God you didn't only leave it to die again.

I don't see why this rework would be a problem, seeing how champions like Leblanc and Rengar are allowed to exist.

DJ Katarina1 votes

Thats kinda exactly how the entire game is vs Teemo as tryn... you are completely and totally useless, you have to sit under turret hoping your jungle will come (and before teemo hits 6 too, or else they may just die to his shrooms giving him even more of an advantage). Like I said don't get me wrong but he's super cancerous in some match ups, in others hes worthless. This is why teemo could use a rework. But if he does see a rework he shouldn't be a "oh they picked teemo GG i cant farm, get xp or do anything" like he is in select match ups now.

Shroom Junkie1 votes

Teemo main disagrees. Keep him the same.

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