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Should Elise get a new Spider Form W?

Lapis x3·7/8/2015, 8:27:17 PM·6 votes·706 views

Ever since Elise's Skittering Frenzy heal was moved to her passive, the ability is extremely boring: press a button to gain lots of Attack Speed. I'm not saying that makes this ability bad per-se, but Elise could have so much more potential if Skittering Frenzy was replaced with something more interactive and interesting.

Elise is suffering from a massive identity problem, but in my opinion, Elise seems to be a Mage while in Human Form and an Assassin in Spider Form. So that got me thinking,** what if Elise had some sort of Web ability?**

Similar to Broodmother (I haven't played Dota 2 before, so I don't know much about this hero), Elise could have an ability that creates a web at a target location, which could grant her and her spiderlings varying bonuses while in Spider Form, such as **Attack Speed, Stealth and Unit Collision Immunity. **

What would this do for Elise? Well, this idea could help Elise stalk her pray and make them vary of her presence. If you cant see Elise while she is in Spider Form on a web, then you would have to be careful about her ganking potential. Additionally, this could help Elise and her survivability with squishier builds. If Elise can hide in her webs to stalk her pray, or escape someone who is after her, she would have more flexibility in build paths. Instead of opting to take her as a stun bot tank, you could consider building her with more AP than usual.

Obviously this is just an idea, and I don't really have numbers to help improve my point, but I just wanted to share :)

4 Comments

Terchio7/8/2015, 8:34:04 PM1 votes

Why does she have spiderlings again?

I'm just not a fan of all this creative mumbo jumbo when all she really needs is some viability planted in her kit, not some random buff after Rappel or all her power being shifted off of her iconic spiderlings. Even in her heyday, Elise's power always lied in her Q. Why are we taking away the spiderling love?

As for the Broodmother part, it's been a while since I played DotA, but that idea functioned very similar to Akali's Smokescreen (even the new movement speed effect). I wouldn't say it's a terrible idea on Elise, as I could see it fit her theme extremely well, but I hate to think of screens getting clogged up with junk like that. I'm already wondering what this new GP rework skill is going to do there, and am not a fan of Satan Shrooms, Mini Shacos, and Rek'sai Tunnels. I'm kinda tired of jungles being such a safe haven simply because these objects are harder to utilize in lane or just easier to destroy. Elise will then be able to latch onto that safety and pose an unstoppable threat, methinks.

khorney7/9/2015, 12:14:19 AM1 votes

Or arachne from smite she is absolute strong as hell

Hard4Hamsters7/9/2015, 6:31:00 AM1 votes

They could lower some of the attack speed boost (only 100% at max level) and give the W active Movement speed as well. She does have trouble sticking to targets, so it would give her a lot of power (maybe too much). It could also help her escape some sticky situations (pun intended) when her E isn't enough.

I don't think that she needs a different W altogether, but I would say that it needs a little something extra since they cut the heal on it.