Riot games you've done it now. Lets talk about this.

RaiNinja··22 votes·10,357 views

I decided, "New crit items. Cool lets run some testing on pbe." And so I did. Took master yi and built him as follows. item 3153 item 3031 item 3087 item 3046 item 3124 and your new item Stormrazor. Time for some testing. I popped a target onto the ground and started using his abilities. I noticed the following:

  1. Because his Q can critically strike, the damage is also boosted by infinity edge's true damage.
  2. Him auto attacking you fully stacked with lethal tempo runs at around 3k dps + 100-200 true damage per auto (along with his true damage e)
  3. No one is running from you now. Should you gap close, your crit items as well as stormrazor are going to ensure no one escapes the whirlwind of pain you are about to unleash. Now here I am thinking,"This is just natural for Yi", so I turned to another champ Jhin . Boy oh boy was that fun. Our friend jhin here is capable of a lot more than I first imagined. Lets get this out of the way. His built in auto crit passive and infinity edge first item do not make a happy couple. You walk in lane, 3 shot minions and your 4th beauty shot is gonna land in the adc's face. Your auto crit, missing health, 4th shot, with the bonus true damage, is going to hurt. I thought, "Ok sure, whatever, lets try full build jhin." My jhin build was the following: item 3031 item 3124 item 3094 item 3072 item 3046 and once again Stormrazor... "Here we go." First auto: Over 300 true damage, Second and Third Autos: Same but slightly higher from stormrazor and guinsoos increases. Fourth auto: 600-800 true damage depending on when your item 3094 is ready and if guinsoos is ready.

Once again, you are running faster than a hecarim on steroids, while hitting harder than a 5 man urf team of full crit garen's. You can outrun anyone but why would you when your autos delete them faster than me actually pressing my delete key.

I understand what you are doing. Bring adcs back. Buff them. Whatever. But the infinity edge changes take that waaaaaaaaaaaay to far. Stormrazor is a really cool item in my opinion, but what you did with infinity edge needs some work. You have to realize, this true damage works with just about anyone who has built in crit in their skills. Talon and MasterYi for example have it on their q's. (Too bad Old Zhao missed this one. May he remain in our memories XinZhao) Additionally, this item causes every Yasuo and Tryndamere player to praise the sun gods some more. You gave them more damage as well as doubling their free crit. If you're gonna release this item reworked, please do something about this. Lower their boosted crit or change the interaction it does with their passives or change the boosted true damage to auto attacks only, please. Thats all I ask as a Talon main. We would love some time to get into the adc's face without getting blasted down at the door. #BringbackTalonCutthroat I would love to hear about some other testing people have done with this new infinity edge and how it interacts with other adcs and champs alike. Thx for reading. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] Can we get a riot games worker in here please. Just wanted to know what was going on inside of HQ when you guys decided on this item's changes.

24 Comments

Colte26 votes

solution: quit making interns with zero experience balance the game ..

[sg-lux-2]

nelogis9 votes

no I think fresh wind in the balance team could be good. So they can throw out their shitty balance philosophies out of the window.

D3m37r111 votes

I noticed that in both builds, you don't have boots. Most people don't do that.

RaiNinja5 votes

This was assuming a late game build. Full 18 build. Plus you will have so much movement speed its like you're wearing boots

Nyarlathοtep4 votes

I highly doubt with all the bonus movement speed (from items and in their kit) you are going to need boots.

Daddy Ants8 votes

item 3153 3200 item 3031 3700 item 3087 2800 item 3046 2800 item 3124 3300

With how fast games are going a build like that is unrealistic.

Of course you can get it on PBE, press Add Gold in practice tool.

Slice n Dice em3 votes

lewl average game duration even for bronze/unranked is around 28 minutes. But hey lets just make an illogical argument with out any realistic consequences about items on Yi and farm upvotes from bronzies.

48% WR champion with 6.5 % PR, is a great for test bench to farm up-votes since he is hated in low elo's because people can't learn to play against him.

Starcraft243ver4 votes

Do not forget he add stormrazor as well. so, add 3400.

saltran2 votes

I'm starting to hate the practice tool since everyobe base their analysis there and withour thinking about how is the tempo of a real pvp game.

iPooUnicorns7 votes

A full 6 damage item build oriented around AAs is gonna be strong regardless of these IE changes.

Also storm razor is not really good with IE / other crit items in general

RaiNinja2 votes

I was just testing its capabilities. From what I've done, its mostly a kiting item.

big boi edri7 votes

Who the fuck gets to 6 items no boots in a real game? That’s like 1 in every 100 games that happens.

Nyarlathοtep5 votes

You know this is so unfair. They are free to do so much damage, just by rightclicking. While there are champs, that you need to have a phD in psychology, just so you will be able to completely predict their movement. And even then your damage will be lower than the one that adcs can output. Well that interesting logic.

RaiNinja3 votes

You guys have to realize, I just wanted to test the item capabilities. If stormrazor is as bad as people say it is, then go ahead and substitute your various pairs of boots into the equation. All I'm doing with these tests is seeing the item combinations and seeing how the new infinity edge behaves with the various in game passives and skills. As you all know, there are champs like Jhin MasterYi Tryndamere Talon Caitlyn Garen etc. who have crit either built into a passive or into a skill. What I wanted to bring to light is the fact that the new IE enhances these skills beyond what they are supposed to be. Being squishy while this is happening is already scary, letting them do an additional 20% TRUE DAMAGE is worse when most of these are guaranteed crits.

ZackTheWaffleMan4 votes

Because you bought BotRK and used it on a dummy, the DPS is higher than it should be.

Lippen272 votes

cant wait for full crit 1k true dmg spins on this guy.

[garen-swing]

you're doing God's work riot. (If God were actually Satan)

Keep up the non game breaking updates!

Starcraft243ver2 votes

You forgot : item 2140 and enhanced IE from orm in order to have a realistic test ...

xelaker2 votes

obviously riot assumed you had built item 3193 item 3075 item 3143 item 3047 item 3110 item 3373 as Rammus used summoner 3 and had a team of Janna Lulu Kayle Galio using their shields and ults on you while 4 levels ahead at fountain. You're fiiiiiiine.

6KEMBE4ORBA1 votes

Trynda is heavily nerfed by the changes.

OP Garen Support1 votes

70 % Crit chance and 20 % true damage with 1 item. Yes Trynda is clearly ruined by these changes.

Total Eclipse1 votes

Once again, you are running faster than a hecarim on steroids, while hitting harder than a 5 man urf team of full crit garen's.

Bro I literally love the way you typed this post!! x'D

Risen291 votes

Master Yi doesnt have crit in his kit.

Talon isnt a good example for the new IE. You only get a crit if you Q in melee range, which is often not possible or practical as you need to use Q to gapclose. Its also reduced damage for a crit, only 150% instead of 200%. Talon wont build IE. There are better options.

FurriesAreHot1 votes

We should have a hard cap or some form of diminishing returns on True Damage, having any extra be converted to magic or physical damage depending on the Champion.

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