Annie stun change?

DaspinnyX2·Dec 4, 2014·2 votes·1,100 views

I am not supporting a full blown take it our or whatever. Just change it to once ever 6 spells. I just got murdered in 2 games by an Annie(1 mid lane, 1 support) because she can completely stun lock someone all on her own. It either needs a longer time between procs, like moving it to 6 spells, or there needs to be diminishing returns. I was playing Akali, me and a Malphite caught her out all on her own and she killed us both even with the Malphite ult because as soon as she came down she dropped her bear and stunned Malphite and with 1 extra spell killed me then she just proceeded to stun lock the Malphite till he died. I don't see how else we could have done it. She killed me before I got my CD's back at all. So no major changes but she needs a longer CD on her spells at least. She had a bear up and then dropped a bear on my head one time. Thats just garbage. If its up I should be safe from her dropping it on me again.

15 Comments

Rustling BushDec 4, 20142 votes

i made a thread like this before, everyone laugh cause they don't think annie qwer penta stunning people while doing huge ass damage is a tad op. i mean i know they already nerfed it, but yeah... i wish they nerfed the proc so she couldn't face roll her laptop and earn a kill at 6. probably kill annie though

Toothierosprey3Dec 4, 20142 votes

You're positioning isn't the best if your entire team is grouped up and lets Annie walk up and use all her skills, wait a few, then use them again.

Rustling BushDec 4, 20141 votes

You're positioning isn't the best if your entire team is grouped up and lets Annie walk up and use all her skills, wait a few, then use them again.

yeah but i mean in team fights, additionally its not like annie isn't going to have her entire team backing her up, in ganks that qwr stun ignite is almost sure kill after lv 6.

Toothierosprey3Dec 4, 20142 votes

For the ganking thing, Lissandra is in the same boat. In team fights though, Annie shouldn't be able to walk past the front liners to the carries without being peeled off at some point. A penta is possible with any champ who's team follows up and carries out the teamfight well.

FiendOfOneDec 4, 20142 votes

She had a bear up and then dropped a bear on my head one time.

That's not possible. The bear lasts for 45 seconds. At max rank, it's an 80 second CD. With 40% CDR, that's 48 seconds.

If she has max CDR, has her stun up, and opens with her bear, her stun will happen again in 7.2 seconds. I do believe that's the fastest stun turnaround in the game; if not it's DEFINITELY the fastest point and click stun in the game.

Leti the YetiDec 4, 20142 votes

annnnnd now we are complaining bout annie its like we have an issue with every 450 champ

okay.. just cuz you got rekt once or twice doenst make a champion OP people get rekt by akali far more often whenever she is not banned ;l

DarthSpectrumDec 5, 20142 votes

Annie's weakness is her short casting range; however, you were Akali so that wouldn't apply. Since she is a 450 ip champion, I played countless matches against her with champions she should counter such as Yasuo or Zed. After a couple games, her stun stops becoming so frustrating.

There are two major weaknesses with her stun: It is short ranged, and she can't wave clear and keep the proc at the same time.

If you are a ranged caster, abuse your range to avoid the stun. If you are melee, the moment she has 3 stacks, try to wave clear as quickly as possible and push to her turret. This will make her waste her stun, draw minion aggro, or take heavy turret damage.

The only overbearing (pun not intended) aspect of her passive is that it triggers off her already high damaging ult. My advice in the case her ult is up is to try to build up a minion advantage on your side so she can't ult stun you with the minion waves pushing to her tower.

DaspinnyX2Dec 4, 20141 votes

I watched her quadra with her and her ADC, she out damaged her ADC by 15k.....Everyone says Akali is OP but I am gonna start banning Annie from now on. She is too powerful.

SmokinSickStyleDec 4, 20141 votes

Just make it so it doesn't last 3 years (not stun duration, but stack duration that currently has noone.).

Imagine Yasuo not having Q stacks to expire lol.

Toothierosprey3Dec 4, 20141 votes

I doubt she nuked two of you, especially since one was Malph. I have to say Annie has some drawbacks like any champ. First, her skills are medium to low ranged. She has to go in pretty close to hit all of her skills, and is in danger for a long time because of her medium cast times. Many champs have single target burst like Annie, such as Malzahar. Also, she's not the only one with an aoe stun, Syndra and Viegar both have a longer range stun, keeping them safer than Annie. Finally, Annie has no escape. She can go in, use all her skills, but then she has no way to get back out. Yes, her stun is annoying, but what stun isn't. You can't expect to beat a fed Annie with Akali anyways.

DaspinnyX2Dec 4, 20141 votes

I ran up to Annie, bear in tow, got by the bear using my ult. I watched the bear run up and then BOOM dropped on my head. Well either way she fucking rocked me and malph, we never stood a chance. Straight up raped us with her bear. No lube or anything. Not even a friendly hand shake first. And I agree with the stacks thing. Either make them expire after a while or make it so its not 4 spells and stun with all that damage.

DaspinnyX2Dec 4, 20141 votes

The bear took nearly half of malphs HP(say roughly 40%), 90% of mine, she then used her aoe flame to kill me and take him down to 40%ish then used her single target spell on him, he was now at 20ish and on the run and then she just waited a couple secs and finished him off.

Toothierosprey3Dec 4, 20142 votes

So the Support Annie nuked you and Malph, and you say the problem is the stun? She was obviously doing good to be able to 2v1 as a support. As it's said in Nakyle's Brand promotion, Brand's base damage, if used perfectly, almost doubles Annie's. This isn't including their AP ratios, which are almost the same. Then there's the fact brand also has a stun, which lasts a whole 2 seconds. Finally, Brand outranges Annie by far, so if Annie is op, Brand is beyond op.

DaspinnyX2Dec 4, 20141 votes

Oh our team fights were terrible, I know that. I am just more concerned with the fact that we ganked her and she raped us.

Toothierosprey3Dec 4, 20142 votes

The thing is, her damage isn't even that high. She can stun a couple people for less than two seconds, from a short range. She can't escape, either.