LEE SIN NEEDS BUFFS (read before commenting)

It's not that he's bad, it's that there are better choices. In e-Sports and professional play character selection plays a huge role. If the enemy team left Nidalee or Gragas open, you're not going to choose Lee Sin whose weaknesses can be more easily capitalized on.

You also can't use Shen, Azir, Kalista, or any of those champions as examples because those are champions with limited representation in every other area of the game. They have strengths that can only be utilized by the highest skill players, they can't just be picked up like Lee can.

2. he does not dominate any league of play, from bronze to challenger to pro. evidence? check his win rates.

Check his winrate combined with his playrates, playrate history, good matchups, and banrate. If you look at one aspect of a champion alone you won't fully understand them.

but i'm talking about the ability to WIN a game, not the ability to clear jg or walk around the map.

Again, look at the bigger picture. Lee Sin is one of the top 5 most played champions in the entire game and his representation coupled with his average winrate is a good thing since it means people who just picked him up can perform decently well with him, and the mains aren't being dragged down by them.

To win, you have to snowball

Except that doesn't apply to jungling. A good jungler focuses on snowballing their laners and taking objectives, not dealing the most damage and getting the most kills. You don't need to snowball on Lee to perform well with him.

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you're ignoring his passive, which is his main dmg source and also scales on ad

This includes his passive.

you're forgetting electrocute procs. also, scaling means nothing at lvl 3 since u have no items.

Electrocute is universal so why would I include it? Scaling means everything because you still have ad through runes.

that's not how resistances work. against the same opponent with the same resistances, the gap doesnt shrink it stays the same. math.

You...did not understand my statement it appears. The statistical percent difference remains the same the actual statistical number does not, and in consideration of hp bars this is important.

except i have, and i didn't have to make up math to do it.

Didn't make up any. You have made no attempt to disprove the numbets. Which informs me you know I am correct.

except that they aren't. first, you can't just add % together for each ability and say lee has 500% scaling.

You can, that is the wonder of math.

that's another obvious mathematical flaw in your response.

He says without explaining the mystical flaw.

he has roughly 100% scaling on every ability.

Except Q which receives additional ad scaling the lower the enemies hp.

If you notice, AD is always scaled harder than AP, since champs typically have more base armor (and AD items give less flat stats across the board).

I started this earlier in my post how base armor tends to be higher.

In practice, your mid-school-math comparison of these champs and the dmg they do comes no where close. in fact, a leblanc combo at max will deal about twice the dmg lee's will.

This is false. This only occurs as other champs reach later levels l. Your chief complaint was level 3 armor and MR which are both low.

math doesn't suit you

He says without showing any math to contradict my statements

if you're blind like lee sin

Get some glasses or lasik dude. I get that you are in denial, but if you made this topic solely to whine at anyone who disagrees with you in an illogical fashion then why make a topic?

Nothing supports buffing lee sin In fact, by all means he deserves a nerf in damage since it is better than talons.