How does Ravenous + Titanic Hydra work together?

Żügżwäng··5 votes·3,274 views

Greetings,

So I kind of play this game under the general impression of "don't stack unique tags together", without fully understanding the mechanic, and it's not clearly explained anywhere in the game itself. I noticed under Kled's recommended items, they had Titanic as essential, and Ravenous under offensive.

First question: "Passive" and "Unique Passive/Active" You can then have n Passives can stack additively upon themselves if you buy n of the same item? Certain items have a "Unique Passive", like the Spectre's Cowl. This means, when you buy another Spectre's Cowl, this specific passive won't stack again (so maximum of one). However, if you buy another item that has its own "Unique passive", that will work, because the unique passive corresponds to its respective item.

Second question: Ravenous and Titanic hydras together So the Tiamat, which builds into both of them, has a Unique passive: Cleave, and Unique active: Crescent. Depending which item you build, Cleave and Crescent takes on different identities --> If you build Ravenous Hydra, it keeps the Tiamat, and if you go Titanic Hydra, it takes on something else. I tried in "practice mode" building both. If you build Titanic (cone attacks) first, then Ravenous (circle attacks), your auto-attacks appear as if they take on the role of the Ravenous Hydra (circle attacks). If you build Ravenous first, then Titanic, they keep the ravenous hydra (circle attacks). You can choose whichever active you want, but using one active puts the other one on cooldown. (I guess since they share the same name).

So what's really going on here? Is building both a Titanic and Ravenous pointless? Is it worth having both for the stats (for a champ like Kled). The actives overlap, so this is not optimal. Which unique passive does it end up taking on?

Thanks for the clarification.

6 Comments

Żügżwäng4 votes

Really strange to have a question downvoted without someone giving a definitive answer. Thanks boards, really helpful and welcoming community.

Mig892 votes

I could be wrong but Im pretty sure the game doesnt let you build both?

Żügżwäng1 votes

It does.

Rewt1 votes

I think it takes the active of whichever one is first in your items list (1,2,3,5,6,7 (4 is trinket))

Either that or its is whichever one you buy first

Kaioko1 votes

It's whichever one you buy first unless they've changed since like a year ago (which is highly possible). Not sure why you would ever buy both at any rate.

Pokemonred2001 votes

If Sheen, Iceborn, Lich Bane, and Trinity Force are to go by, it's whichever one has the potential to deal the most damage (which is why Sheen has the lowest priority, followed by Iceborn, followed by Trinity Force, followed by Lich Bane, which is highest priority)

Stattik Shiv, Kircheis Shard, and Rapid Fire Cannon work the same way; back when Rapid Fire Cannon had higher base damage than Stattik Shiv, the damage would come from Rapid Fire on the primary target if the attack did not crit.

Taking that into account, I would say Ravenous takes priority if the damage from raw AD would outscale the damage from building health, and Titanic would take priority if the damage from health did more than the damage from raw AD, but their AOE effects are different, so I'm not 100% sure if this is the case.

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