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Can we stop treating normals like a joke?

ceral4·7/10/2015, 8:28:39 PM·110 votes·5,088 views

I'm tired of having to play ranked to get a game where people play League properly. The objective of the game is to destroy the enemy Nexus. Just because it's normals doesn't mean that you're allowed to afk in the middle of the game because you don't feel like playing. Normals also doesn't mean that you can build AP on riven and feed 0-10.

Think about it. If you play basketball with your friends, you score on the opposing team's hoop because it's the proper way to play the game. You don't kick the ball 30 meters away from the court "just cuz it's a friendly match lelelele"

There is a difference between playing casually and TROLLING.

107 Comments

Serevas7/10/2015, 8:33:01 PM93 votes

You get people who play the game properly in ranked? You lucky dog you.

JimmyNtheKudos7/10/2015, 10:32:23 PM36 votes

"it's just norms" - every feeder ever

NemeBro7/11/2015, 1:13:36 AM21 votes

Trolling because "it's just normals" is lame as shit and ban-worthy. Not making an effort at winning is also not okay.

Trying new champions or things, or playing champions that you honestly feel are weak but you like playing them (I do this with Olaf) in normals is okay.

The Virgin Perry7/10/2015, 11:21:19 PM14 votes

I'm just gonna put this out there. I don't normals as seriously as ranked. And since league is a videogame, it's entire purpose is to provide fun entertainment, in other words, to have fun. Don't get me wrong though, I do still try in normals, and 95% of the time I play things that make sense. But sometimes if my friends and I want to have fun and try something weird, I try weird shit like vi and sion in the bot lane. We do still try to do good, but playing those champions in the bot lane is not normal in the slightest, but it is fun as hell, which is all that really matters in a game. And I guess by using this logic, if straight up feeding is fun to some people, than they should do it. I'm not trying to justify that, because that's just being a dick. But if you just want to try something out that you think is fun and might work, then I think you should be able to do it in normals. Definitely not in ranked though, because ranked actually matters to the vast majority of players.

ayNigerianPrince7/11/2015, 3:41:55 AM13 votes

While we're at it lets stop treating ranked like a joke.

OperationDEEZ17/11/2015, 1:40:32 AM9 votes

It's weird that I find exponentially more trolls/feeders/incompetent players in Ranked than normals.

Malicious Fury7/11/2015, 7:20:29 AM9 votes

Yes people should take Normals more seriously, but to all those people in Normals that say "Go play Co-Op" because you're learning a new champion, I say shut up. Bots aren't smart at all and are 100% predictable. Normals is for learning champions. Ranked is for using champions you've mastered. Bots is for getting free IP or bringing in a new friend who hasn't a clue what's going on. If you're raging at someone in Normals because they haven't mastered their new champion yet, then you're the problem. Help them out or just shut up.

Baby Ghoul7/10/2015, 11:41:25 PM8 votes

I agree with you so much. People need to stop thinking that normals is where they can troll and get away with it. You're being selfish when you waste 20 mins of everyone's time.

Even when they're on the other team, it's not satisfying crushing an AD Leblanc running right down the middle of the lane. It's not fun when someone is texting their significant other in a bush while team fights are happening. Don't play team games if you're a selfish player. Just don't. If you think you need to have fun at other's expense then you need to play a different game. Stop putting your team at a severe disadvantage because that's what you consider to be "fun".

Not everyone plays ranked, and a lot of people do not like to play ranked. Some of us are getting our champion pools ready for ranked. Part of the reason I want to climb is because I get matched with bronze and silver players in my normals, and they always do some BS like Karthus ADC and Rek'Sai support.

I'm all for trying new off meta things, but so many people who think it's fun to do this have no understanding of the champion, when to pick them, or what off meta means.

Ale non è male7/11/2015, 9:27:20 AM6 votes

People can practice seriously new champs/stuffs/builds or new strategies or play champs in unconventional roles/lanes whie having fun and not be pressured to win at the same time. There isn't a contradiction between these two things when people want to play normal and relax The problem is that when people just not play seriously at all or fail early with their strange stuff and decide to suddenly afk/trolling/not caring anymore...and everyone can notice the difference when this is happening. This behaviour IS extremely toxic, and no one can make excuses to defend it

Reaper Soraka7/11/2015, 7:42:59 AM5 votes

Could we also stop treating normal draft like it's ranked? I don't like having my head bit off every time I try a new champion against actual players, or try a champion in a different role than the "meta" considers it to be.

Firestartertot7/11/2015, 12:29:37 AM5 votes

Normals is a good way to test some things out, but downright trolling is annoying as fuck. (unless you're in a 5 man premade with your friends xD)

FantasySniper7/11/2015, 9:06:11 AM4 votes

One time this guy I was supporting was doing horribly and making the easiest mistakes. He died twice before the 5 minute mark, and was being a little shit about it.

His reasoning was: "it's normals, not like it matters"

I said in response: "Excuses, excuses"

He then afk'ed. Yeah...

Athenes Lulu7/11/2015, 8:58:35 AM4 votes

More like people need to stop taking normals so stupidly seriously. Want to practice some champs, try out new/strange/unusual builds, or just want to have fun? That's what norms are for. You don't lose anything for losing; you don't lose anything for doing badly. That's why many people play normals and don't give a shit if they lose

If you really wanted to tryhard balls deep or some shit, go play ranked (or 5s) and you would actually get something out of it.

It is excusable if someone goes 0/10 because they are practicing unfamiliar champs (because bots don't teach you anything about PVP btw). However, it is not excusable to go 0/10 because they ran into tower to feed, that's pretty much purposely trolling.

Bottom line, stop taking it so stupidly seriously. It's "casuals" for a reason.

Cleril7/10/2015, 10:31:35 PM4 votes

Mostly I see people pretend like normals means there are no rules and the points don't matter.

TotalJerk7/11/2015, 5:23:43 AM3 votes

If you're going to fuck around, take that shit to customs or Co-Op vs AI.

TurquoiseYoshi7/11/2015, 3:30:24 AM3 votes

For me, you can do whatever in normals, as long as you don't suck. Feeding is bad, but playing off meta is okay if you play well.

Project Riven7/11/2015, 9:37:34 AM3 votes

Where do people practice against real players then? Normal is where you try new things without jeopardizing anything.

Keep in mind, you're playing for 100ish IP and some experience points. If you lose, you still get some of those points.

Normal shouldn't be treated seriously.

aaronconlin7/11/2015, 1:42:15 PM3 votes

I've had the opposite. I rarely ever get feeders or trolls in normal games, but my ranked games.. Ugh.

Trias0007/11/2015, 10:33:22 PM2 votes

Can we stop tryharding and flaming anyone who does badly or doesn't follow the meta? At least in normals.

Cats Are Food7/11/2015, 11:00:09 PM2 votes

Here is the deal... I played before ranked existed, so to me Normals is just that, it's a normal game of league. In a normal game of league, we'd get bored and play AD Soraka and AD Annie, with AP Nasus, Tank Katarina, and Jungle Teemo. We also would actually try and win. If we lost, we laughed it off, and moved on. However, this was when we were a 5 man. I think that it is perfectly fine to play an AP Riven, as long as you set her up to still be able to do her job (it's possible). If she fails at killing, but is still bruising/harassing/initiating? Let the player be. They are doing their job, just poorly.

HOWEVER, that being said... if they are just blatantly trolling, going AFK, or whining about 'Try Hards?' They should be banned, or remanded to 50 bot games.

Actually, I like the bot games idea... think I'll make a post.

Father Cthulhu7/11/2015, 4:00:00 PM2 votes

I get what you're talking about, but I'm not gonna take normals as seriously as ranked under any circumstance. If you're mainly talking about trolls and feeders that use normals as a scapegoat, then I understand. But the objective of normals is to have fun, not climb the ladder like in ranked.

Wajster7/11/2015, 5:17:01 PM2 votes

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I'm tired of having to play ranked to get a game where people play League properly. The objective of the game is to destroy the enemy Nexus. Just because it's normals doesn't mean that you're allowed to afk in the middle of the game because you don't feel like playing. Normals also doesn't mean that you can build AP on riven and feed 0-10.

Think about it. If you play basketball with your friends, you score on the opposing team's hoop because it's the proper way to play the game. You don't kick the ball 30 meters away from the court "just cuz it's a friendly match lelelele"

Fuck that, ranked is already too stressful with the amount of children who play it and the zero patience they have that just ruins the experience for everyone. If I play norms with my friends, I play it to win but I don't feel the stress and I can try new shit out. Going AP riven is dumb but I don't mind experimenting in norms. Unless you're afk or intentionally feeding, do what you feel like doing. There is nothing to really gain in normals apart from some IP so just have fun.

T RexHasTinyArms7/11/2015, 7:23:10 PM2 votes

Actively trolling is an issue, normals is where you are supposed to practice stuff right? So in theory there should be more people getting absolutely crushed in normals because they are playing things they don't know. So to some degree there will always be issues with normals having odd balance based on who is on their main vs someone learning and playing a champ for the first time.

YOLO420SWAGSCOPE7/11/2015, 9:42:35 PM2 votes

what happened to, "it's just a game" ?

Ataraxas7/11/2015, 8:29:03 AM2 votes

sry m8 gotta downvote imo normals should be a more relaxing place then ranked if u wanna be all serious go play ranked all the seriousness in what causes all the toxicity don't get me wrong i'm NOT saying trolls and afkers are okay those people deserve to get banned but i'm seriously against normal bein all-serious-and-if-someone-makes-a-mistake -yell-at-them-all-game-and-sue-them-out kinda thing all the fun in the game would be thrown out the window and games are for fun so you can relax and get out of all the seriousness of life and just to be clear tryin new things, no matter how bad it may seem, is NOT troll unless u build ap items on a completely ad champ... now that's troll

DrNova7/11/2015, 3:55:39 AM2 votes

In what world do you live in? I find better players in normals then I do in ranked.