@Riot anybody: thoughts on Bard

Void Kaiju··1 votes·318 views

It's hard for me to say whether or not bard is in a good place right now. What I can say for sure is that Support itemization changes hurt him badly, the fact that he has lost his efficient means of getting spooky ghosts means that he sacrifices the bulk he NEEDS to survive early in exchange for the very useful active. The result is that if a botlane with bard falls behind (and the enemy botlane is competent), then it feels like there's very little he can do to help his ADC. He can't do much at all without approaching basic attack range of his fed opponents, and his only hard crowd control is reliant on enemy poor positioning, allowing proper play to render him near-helpless to save his own or his adc's life.

As much as I personally love rushing raptor cloak because its passive is amazing, I don't like feeling forced to invest in heavy resists earlygame just to survive long enough to do my thing when other supports can more reliably build their support items and still be useful whilst adding more utility to their already utility-packed kits.

He lacks consistency, which on one hand is fine because when the enemy doesn't know what to do then he can crush them. But typically things aren't balanced around the assumption of enemies who don't know what they're doing. I feel he could use something to make playing properly from behind less frustrating. Or something to make his teamfighting a little stronger so that if he chooses to roam and help force things elsewhere, he can still recover.

Don't get me wrong, I adore Bard. He's my favourite champion in the game. But he just feels like he's in a weird place right now. I feel if he needs work it should definitely not be in the damage department. He does plenty of damage. But I feel like he could really benefit from... something. (Like narrowing and elongating Q so I can weave it through minions and not have it stun the minion who is horizontal to the one I hit first. This would also cut down on the number of stuns that feel like bullshit for the enemy players. Also fix the bug where his portals are like 1 unit long sometimes.)

But I'm very curious to hear what people think, or if bard has even been on Riot's radar since support item changes.

also are there any plans to take a second pass at his chromas to bring them up to snuff?

2 Comments

Vioforte1 votes

How are you building him? The changes have, in my opinion, made Bard mains think outside the box. I personally build my Bard with little sustainability, focusing instead on CDR to utilize Ults more frequently and attack speed to make use of all that chime-hunting. Due to the AOE bursts he throws out, he sets up team fights for victory or sweeps out the leftovers. This general building path also allows for some unexpected split-pushing, and, as Bard, there are a million ways to safely escape.

If a champ ever feels weird to you, try out other possibilities. Go crazy.

Void Kaiju1 votes

My first core items are zzrot and twin shadows. Really good combo for putting pressure on the map. I've been experimenting with also getting banner because people are so used to popping bard instantly that all those tank stats make them overcommit and often go into one of my death tunnels. Also pop zzrot and banner bot before there's some baron shenanigans and you can get a tower whilst teamfighting. I've found that without building resists early, my damage doesn't matter at all because they simply all in me if they survive my initial burst and 100-0 me very quickly. It's not like I'm having no success on bard. The issue is that it feels like I need to work harder to get that success compared to nearly every other support champion. And that if I actually face a competent Janna or Lulu, or any engage support, there's very little I can do to help my adc aside from hope that the shrines I've been setting up do their job.

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