How the fuck does MR work?

DaspinnyX2·10/12/2015, 9:17:57 PM·1 votes·467 views

I was playing Malphite in ARAM. Yes, I understand hes way tankier against armor. That being said. Went into a game against TF, Bard, Swain, Brand, and Ezreal who went AP. I was the only possible tank so I decided to just buy MR items. we got stomped so hard cause of their CC but what was frustrating me is that no matter how much MR I had. They never seemed to do less damage to me. I had boots, Spirit Visage, and Abyssal Scepter. They had no more MP than boots and brand with Liandry's Torment. How was I taking so much damage? it doesn't make any sense to me.

8 Comments

67chrome10/12/2015, 9:41:44 PM2 votes

How the fuck does MR work?

Someone's mad.

But the basics for how MR work are this:

100 makes you take 1/2 magic damage 200 is 1/3 300 is 1/4 400 is 1/5 500 is 1/6

Essentially, every 100 extends your HP bar by another 100%.

That said - defensive itemization has the same pitfalls as offensive itemization. If you fall behind in gold and levels, you quickly fall behind in usefulness.

Offense and defense usually counteract one-another as well. If it takes 10 seconds to kill one-another early game with no items/runes/masteries, it tends to take 10 seconds to kill one-another late game pitting full glass vs. full tank. If it's 1 tank vs. 5 cannons, you go down to 2 seconds of durability - so playing well is all about timing a dive within a 2 second window your team can really capitalize on.

Poop Jelly10/12/2015, 9:22:53 PM1 votes

MR and Armor alone won't cut it, you need additional HP. But even with both, chances are you'll still receive massive damage especially in an assembled fight with 2 or more people directly on you =].

DrCyanide10/12/2015, 9:22:58 PM1 votes

I bet it was Ezreal that was really hitting you hard. He had item 3151 which was doing between 2-4% of your HP in burn effect after most spells.

MisterHealYoGirl10/12/2015, 9:26:41 PM1 votes

MR multiplies incoming magic damage by (100)/(100+MR) before it's applied. Since it sounds like they were doing well, they could just have been stacking AP faster than you could stack MR. MR actually becomes less effective per-point the more of it you have (the difference between 0 and 10 MR is roughly a 9% decrease in damage, but the difference between 100 and 110 MR is only about 2.5%, even though the same amount of MR was added). It's only really good when combined with a lot of health, since those stack multiplicatively. That is to say, MR and armor multiply your effective health, so the tankiest builds mix HP and armor/MR. It doesn't sound like you had a lot of HP built, which might have been your problem.

Zielmann10/12/2015, 9:39:51 PM1 votes

Unrelated tip: If you're against a high-magic-damage team like that in ARAM, somebody on the team should build Locket. As the tank, you would have been a perfect candidate for it.

DaspinnyX210/12/2015, 9:51:07 PM1 votes

Ok I get all of this. There was not a single Void Staff on the entire team. 1 completed Liandry's was on Brand and the partial was on Swain. Ez didn't even have boots and his Q hit me for about 1/4 of my HP. TF took me from 100% down to like 33% in 1 spell rotation. Then how do Late game tanks work? Cause Champs like Garen or an armor Malphite are nearly unkillable. I played a game that happened that our team had 5 ADC's and they had only a Malph to tank and he went in 1v5 before his team was there and killed 3 of us before we had to run away and he still had 25% HP or so. I don't get it. Am I doing something Wrong?

Environmentalist10/12/2015, 9:23:08 PM1 votes

They may have had a couple items that ignore some of your MR, like item 3135 .

Trash MammaI10/12/2015, 10:01:59 PM1 votes

Penetration items are retarded and being a tank is pointless unless you're ahead pretty much sums it up. A single anti-tank item can ignore 2-3 tank items in general