For the love of God Riot please put all debuffs and shit back to the middle of the screen!

Trap Nap·Jan 9, 2015·446 votes·10,797 views

PLEASE YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO LOOK LEFT WHEN WE ARE FIGHTING AND TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE CENTER!

118 Comments

NotDevanJan 9, 2015121 votes

At least make it an option.

Trap NapJan 9, 201543 votes

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At least make it an option.

This.

Please.

THIS!

Desmond LawJan 9, 20154 votes

I think timed debuffs/buffs should go onto the center HUD, permanent buffs over your minimap, and team auras on your champion HUD

JungHai0Jan 10, 20151 votes

Spreading it around all over the place would be hard for me personally to keep track of.

GinnyJan 10, 20151 votes

You mean like it is now?

WarlockLawFeb 9, 20151 votes

I would very much prefer for devourer and other stacking mechanics should be on the center HUD

ChrisB5Jan 9, 20152 votes

I think this is a great compromise.

KenjìJan 9, 20159 votes

Seriously yeah, why did they move it over to the left in the first place? It was fine the way it was before.

Lunar LightningJan 10, 20151 votes

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At least make it an option.

this

EmadnessJan 10, 20151 votes

Agreed

TonyTonyMordecaiJan 10, 20151 votes

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Agreed

Agreed! Ezreal

DeusVultJan 9, 201542 votes

Its hilarious how retarded it is

health potions - center of the screen

I take biscuit mastery? Now they're on the left of the screen

Having them all in the middle doesn't make things less clear, it makes it more clear since i can see everything as its happening while not having to look over to the very left of the screen every second

ThryaleJan 9, 201512 votes

this, so much this. I actually stopped using the biscuit mastery because of this!

also, another thing that irritates me with the biscuit mastery is that if you jam 3 of them in yer mouth at once, you only get the instant heal from the first one.

MordiusJan 9, 20153 votes

Mana pots are also left of the screen for some reason

Rei TenshiJan 9, 201540 votes

You should probably know by now that Riot doesn't give a fuck what the community wants.

If a dev ever pops up in here you can expect something like: "But we have collected tons of data and we feel that this is the best for the health/enjoyment of the game" .

chuckduck1Jan 9, 20155 votes

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You should probably know by now that Riot doesn't give a fuck what the community wants.

If a dev ever pops up in here you can expect something like: "But we have collected tons of data and we feel that this is the best for the health/enjoyment of the game" .

I disagree. They recently announced that a new server network will be establish in march to boost the connection for the east coast. They listen but with such a large game and community, they can't make things happen at the snap of their fingers. It is difficult to successfully change the coding of something without creating bugs and glitches which they need more time to fix. They can either spend time commenting on here or read it and immediately start working on it.

Rei TenshiJan 10, 20152 votes

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I disagree. They recently announced that a new server network will be establish in march to boost the connection for the east coast. They listen but with such a large game and community, they can't make things happen at the snap of their fingers. It is difficult to successfully change the coding of something without creating bugs and glitches which they need more time to fix. They can either spend time commenting on here or read it and immediately start working on it.

And it only took them 4 years to do it too. Gj Riot trololol.

Seriously, if you're impressed because they're finally doing something they are SUPPOSED to be doing in the first place, then you're pretty much a blind ass-kisser.

chuckduck1Jan 10, 20154 votes

Seriously, if you're impressed because they're finally doing something they are SUPPOSED to be doing in the first place, then you're pretty much a blind ass-kisser.

I am a blind ass-kisser because I simply stated that they were actually improving the system? I could be like you and bitch about everything they aren't doing and turn a blind eye to any positive changes, or I can be like a normal person and see that they will imrpvoe the network and thank "Good job Riot."

Rei TenshiJan 10, 20152 votes

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I am a blind ass-kisser because I simply stated that they were actually improving the system? I could be like you and bitch about everything they aren't doing and turn a blind eye to any positive changes, or I can be like a normal person and see that they will imrpvoe the network and thank "Good job Riot."

No, I'm calling you a blind ass-kisser because despite how horrible Riot's service is on everything: from the crappy dev interaction in these crappy boards, to the crappy server issues, to their crappy philosophy on gameplay balance (Leesin/Zed OP? BetterNerfSona!), you managed to ignore all of that and state "I disagree, Riot actually listens and is doing a fine job".

Shro0mieMar 27, 20151 votes

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No, I'm calling you a blind ass-kisser because despite how horrible Riot's service is on everything: from the crappy dev interaction in these crappy boards, to the crappy server issues, to their crappy philosophy on gameplay balance (Leesin/Zed OP? BetterNerfSona!), you managed to ignore all of that and state "I disagree, Riot actually listens and is doing a fine job".

Why do you still play? just quit man if thats the way you feel.

I however would very much like to see debuffs back in the center OR AT LEAST some feedback to why its not happening as every player I've seen hates it on the left, even after its been this way for a few months.

FrnakJan 10, 20156 votes

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And it only took them 4 years to do it too. Gj Riot trololol.

Seriously, if you're impressed because they're finally doing something they are SUPPOSED to be doing in the first place, then you're pretty much a blind ass-kisser.

Are you. Kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me?

They are going to be the first to EVER have done something like this, ever-fucking-ever. Do you not understand what they are doing?

Go do some research. Jesus fucking ungrateful sdfl;akjh02W4389TH

Trap NapJan 9, 20157 votes

please bump this pleasee pleaseeeeeeeee

BillyBeatdownJan 9, 20156 votes

Or above the minimap, since most players are looking at that rather constantly anyway.. And people who aren't and are always complaining about not getting pings, they may start dying less if it's above the map since they are more likely to look down in that corner of the screen if they were moved there.

Shro0mieMar 27, 20151 votes

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Or above the minimap, since most players are looking at that rather constantly anyway.. And people who aren't and are always complaining about not getting pings, they may start dying less if it's above the map since they are more likely to look down in that corner of the screen if they were moved there.

I feel it needs to be in the center where the fighting is going on. I mostly look at minimap inbetween cs, not when im micromanaging in teamfights.

EssoranceJan 9, 20156 votes

No one asks for this pointless change to be made; Rito adds it as a priority.

Community ask TIME AND TIME AGAIN to revert it; Rito doesn't give afuq.

gj rito. numba wan companee

NagirahJan 9, 20155 votes

This is even worse for me, because my computer's screen is actually a tv screen... It's so fun to look in the bottom left corner when the screen is massive. Recently I got killed due to that, because I couldn't pay attention to the buffs and the fight at the same time.

remotayy1Mar 3, 20151 votes

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This is even worse for me, because my computer's screen is actually a tv screen... It's so fun to look in the bottom left corner when the screen is massive. Recently I got killed due to that, because I couldn't pay attention to the buffs and the fight at the same time.

This to a certain degree. I use a larger monitor where for me to see my map or inventory i have to shift my focus. It would be great if the buffs were back in the center.

Maestro80Jan 9, 20155 votes

The chat box actually obscures the buff boxes on the left so I can't even really see them. It's annoying as hell.

lol I died againJan 9, 20155 votes

I want to support this, but I'm an atheist.

Jesus is SaviorJan 9, 20154 votes

Keep Raptor buff, Krug buff, and frog buff, and dragon buff on the left. Everything else back to the center. ty Riot. pls

BasicExpJan 9, 20154 votes

I understand how the initial change might be irritating, but I got use to this after about fifty games. Most of the buffs, effects, etc, already have a visual queue on your champion which had you essentially starring at an icon a visual effect in the same place telling you the same thing.

It is possible that I am quite likely the exception here but I check my inventory quite often anyways, about as often as I check my mini map fir relevant information; ie ward count, pot count, etc especially while jungling. The change was a little confusing at first as I thought I was running out of buffs before I should be, but after the adjustment I am quite content with where this information is now.

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At least make it an option.

This is probably the best compromise regardless, as long as it is not a major budgetary issue to do so.

Regards,

Basic

Nova SkyeJan 9, 20153 votes

I'm actually with you on this one. As a developer myself, I can understand the design decision. There are enough visual cues in the game itself (as you put it, on the champion), and I am very aware of what I've bought/killed/stolen off of over players that I've never even really looked at the icons. The only one that still gets me on occasion is Dragon buff (especially when theres a fight over it and I didn't catch who got the kill on it).

While I do agree that perhaps making it an option is more fair, hearing everyone literally screaming about it grates on my nerves something terrible. Check out Clients from Hell and understand the frustration of people telling you how to do your job better. There are better ways to approach something you don't like than "you're all idiots and terrible people" - which is a lot of what I've read on here.

BTW, I play with a college group of over 20 as well as a few different random groups - I've never heard a complaint from any of them. It's not a large number but it does prove that some people can either live with changes Riot decides to make.

Trap NapJan 9, 20154 votes

140+ upvotes and it sunk

lol what

RasCaelestisJan 9, 20152 votes

Welcome to the Boards. -_-

AarekkJan 9, 20154 votes

I think the only things that should be on the left are long lasting/permanent buffs. Nasus stacks? Devourer Stacks? Jungle Buffs? Left. Pots, Buffs and Debuffs? Center.

TheKingDodoJan 10, 20154 votes

I prefer not to know my buffs/debuffs so I can make poor decisions and die early in team fights.

2 much sauuuceJan 9, 20153 votes

I totally agree. It's annoying having to look all over the screen at the bottom now. And this is from a support player. Even I hate having to look to the left for debuffs and such. It's a pain in my tushy!!!

bad memerJan 9, 20152 votes

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It's a pain in my tushy!!!

I lol'd

GaleWinUnleashedJan 10, 20153 votes

Needs more sorting. Middle was supposedly reserved for buffs you need to be able to check at a glance, yet for some reason we still have to actually look to the left for a number of buffs right now. ANY buff that has even the slightest chance of being lost or changed over the course of the game should be placed in the middle. Buffs that are actually permanent can go to the left, out of the way.

Shro0mieMar 27, 20151 votes

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Needs more sorting. Middle was supposedly reserved for buffs you need to be able to check at a glance, yet for some reason we still have to actually look to the left for a number of buffs right now. ANY buff that has even the slightest chance of being lost or changed over the course of the game should be placed in the middle. Buffs that are actually permanent can go to the left, out of the way.

This. I think this is what riot actually (hoped?) had intended. But it was a massive fail, speically at release when kayles e and irelias w (alot of proplem in the top lane actually with all the steroids) were on left. Like Kayles E is pretty important in lane, nothings worse when you start running towards a darius cause your e is up and you cant see it cuase its on the left your trying to kite but cant look.

Daedalus871Feb 13, 20153 votes

The permanent buffs and long duration buffs (baron, krug, etc) can go wherever, but the immediate stuff (poisons, cc, pretty much anything < 5 seconds) should go in the center.

FluppetsJan 9, 20152 votes

It is still a WIP, for example Sheen (spellblade; triforce, iceborn, lich bane) is on the left, which is not working as intended, it should be in the center. There are many other buffs/debuffs that need to be moved, they just haven't gotten round to it.

The idea is that in-combat-related buffs/debuffs that need to be checked quickly and on a regular basis will be in the middle, obviously there are a few still being misplaced. So its a valid concern and I am sure it will be dealt with. Remember we are still in pre-season, everything is under construction.

They're already working on it.

The Queen ViperJan 10, 20152 votes

... but thinking logically is too hard for RITO. :/

Ada WongMay 18, 20152 votes

How about they give us a way to customize the User Interface, Meaning move around the debuffs and such.

OlieurJan 10, 20151 votes

SUPPORT

NauthesJan 11, 20151 votes

Bump! Need to see a red comment on this

Static DuckJan 12, 20151 votes

Needs to be an option. I keep looking for things and missing them because somethings I value knowing about are on the left and things that Riot has decided are important are in the middle. For instance Gragas' "W" ability. The timer showing you how long you have an empowered on-hit attack is in the middle, yet the buff ability that shows damage reduction is on the left. When im tanking, I want that damage reduction front and center so I know how long I can soak up hits @ -X% reduction. I keep getting into situations on champs where all the information I need is not in one place. It needs to be front and center. The change was horrible.

Tundra FizzFeb 9, 20151 votes

Please Riot, do as the original poster says.

it's absolutely annoying and I really hate how I have to scan the bottom of my screen trying to look for a particular buff/debuff instead of just looking at one area like always.

What makes it even worse is that the champion portrait is smaller than the abilities down in the middle-center of the screen which makes buffs/debuffs in that area EVEN HARDER TO SEE.

What you have done is extremely bad for clarity. Change it back to how it originally was.

eSoXxeFeb 21, 20151 votes