Regarding Moonflairs Spellblade, Wooglets, etc.

The oLAD·4/7/2015, 11:15:14 PM·1 votes·590 views

So regarding moonflairs spellblade. Why could it not be in Summoner's Rift. I know it would be kinda op and stuff. But why not tune down the armor and mr or the ap and keep tenacity. We need more items with tenacity and i thought maybe moonflairs could be a good start.

But also with items like Wooglet's or The Lightbringer, they could potentially be put into SR. If the items are to op or having two items means the gets MEGA OP (like rabs and wooglets, or lord van damm's and infinity edge). But we could put the same passives on them. Preventing the op and getting more item and passive diversity. So just think aboot it Riot. Same passives don't stack, more item diversity, eh eh eh, cmon. LOL.

Thank you for reading and to be TOTALLY honest. Don't even consider Lord Van Damm's Pillager. That is too op.

And please no vulgarity or name calling. :)item 3170 item 3090 item 3185

5 Comments

Terff4/7/2015, 11:17:50 PM2 votes

Moonflair and mayybe lightbringer, teemo the one most effected by lightbringer and he's not really in the greatest spot atm, but definitely not wooglets.

Sire Hippington4/7/2015, 11:19:07 PM2 votes

Don't see how Moonflair would be op. All it evt needs is more goldcosts and a bit more ap to delay a bit more as it might be a hard powerspike as first item in some matchups.

why would one add woogles? that thing is damn broken, and if you cut it down you end with a zhonyas. and if u didn't notice, vandams is exatly the same as IE, just with a different buildpath....

Sightless664/7/2015, 11:39:17 PM2 votes

I'm not a fan of adding any of these items to Summoner's Rift.

Wooglet's is just a combination of Zhonya's and Rabadon's. It exists only to give quicker access to both of those effects in a game mode where having to finish multiple items for needed effects can take too long. The power spike it gives is too quick for Summoner's Rift. It was done before with Zhonya's Ring, which was purposely split into Rabadon's Deathcap and Zhonya's. It works much better this way.

Adding this also wouldn't increase item diversity. Item diversity isn't just purchasing a different item to do the exact same job, it's purchasing an item to do something different. Wooglet's just does the same exact job as Rabadon's and Zhonya's. It's not adding something unique, it's just shoving the same effects into a more slot-efficient package.

Moonflair Spellblade is a poorly designed item for Summoner's Rift. It gives damage, covers all your defensive bases, and gives a very useful tenacity. It was added to help a class that was suffering in 3v3 by giving them an overtuned defensive option. The thing is though, that class doesn't need the same defensive option in Summoner's Rift. It would just give too much. An item that answers all general defense needs while giving damage and a very useful effect isn't good design. It answers any potential problem you might have. It needs a situation where it is a bad purchase.

More tenacity items might be a good idea, but the Spellblade is a bad place to start.

Lightbringer could work, but I'm not sure it would have a point. There are other forms of stealth detection, and most of those can also deal with wards in addition to traps. Lightbringer works in an environment where there is low stealth detection and where traps can give you a source of vision control when the other team has no access to any kind of vision. In a place where traps aren't the only source of vision and there is better stealth detection, I can see very situations where it would actually be a good purchase. On top of that, trap using champions aren't really in need of more counterplay right now. If it was added I'd bet on it becoming the new Executioner's Calling. Theoretically useful, realistically useless.

Voluug134/8/2015, 12:17:02 AM2 votes

Moonflair spellblade could be. Maybe if it lost one of its resistances in the case it could be considered too broken for SR.

Wogglet is simply Zhonia's+Rabadon and has no place in SR.

Lightbringer could be used but should need some really serious tweaks to not invalidate Teemo completly (I am not a fan of Teemom but he hardly can stay relevant at all currently). Every other stealth champion can be countered with the already existing true vision tools.

The oLAD4/7/2015, 11:15:42 PM

I spelled efficiant wrong, lol