Mordekaiser is an unhealthy champion to the game and should be nerfed just like Irelia got nerfed

GankIrelia··4 votes·2,120 views

Okay, before we begin, no, I'm not complaining about the Irelia nerfs, I'm just bringing it up as an example.

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, we can go to why Riot has to nerf Mordekaiser, and not just a slight nerf to his passive, I mean ones that change up his playstyle.

1.) Mordekaiser's health growth is far too high, and his armor growth too is far too high to make him somewhat reasonable to play against. So he starts off with 37 armor, which is higher than Sion Shen Nasus Malphite Kled Jax Jayce Illaoi Gnar Garen DrMundo , and Camille.

1.5) Now most, if not all, of these champions have higher base armor than Mordekaiser at level 18, but games are not dragged out to level 18 unless it's a really close match.

2.) Mordekaiser's base stats on his abilites are way too high, and his kit is overloaded, with ap ratios, on-hit bonus damage, percent health damage, a shield, healing, magic pen from his e, and basically taking 10% of all your stats when he ults you. Now if you think about it, no champion should be able to have that many stats, just from his abilities, that's just too unfair to play and lane against, especially with top lane's current state, where a few champions just dominate every pick, but guess what, Mordekaiser still wins those matchups without the need of most of his brain cells.

3.) Now for his winrate in the last three patches. This is from U.gg His winrate in 9.14, after being nerfed on this patch is 50.84% with a pick rate of 8.1%, and a ban rate of 42.0% His winrate in 9.15 is 50.67%, with a pick rate of 7.3, and a ban rate of 29.0% His winrate in 9.16 is 51.28%, with a pick rate of 7.0%, and a ban rate of 18.7%

Now these stats are brought to you by blitz His winrate in 9.14, after being nerfed on this patch is 51.3% with a pick rate of 6.21% and a ban rate of 38.7% His winrate in 9.15 is 50.7% with a pick rate of 6.76%, and a ban rate of 27.8% His winrate in 9.16 is 51.5% with a pick rate of 6.81%, and a ban rate of 17.0%

4.) As you can see, Mordekaiser has had a steady increase in his winrate, as the play rate got higher and the ban rate got lower. If you look at it from an analytic standpoint these show you that the champion is strong, but his ban rate has been keeping him down, and while more and more people pick up on him, the more his winrate will get higher, and his most difficult matchups involve ranged champs, Singed, Quinn, Rengar, Fiora, Jax, and Swain

So the current top laners, based on pick rate, such as Aatrox, Darius, Fiora, Pantheon, and Renekton would all get demolished by the one big baddy of toplane, and no it's not Kled, it's Mordekaiser.

This is the end of the thread, and I'm new to making threads so any advice would help me make better ones in the future. Leave your opinions down below and let me know what you think about Mordekaiser

References : https://blitz.gg/lol/champions/Mordekaiser https://u.gg/lol/champions/mordekaiser/build https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Mordekaiser

17 Comments

Slim Gragas4 votes

Mordekaiser has 0 mobility, and once you have a zhonyas or sash you make his ult near useless. Of course he should have good natural base stats across the board. Do you expect Illaoi to also have terrible base stats even though she has no mobility? They need something going for them. Champions like him get fed off of you making plays, they hardly have playmaking potential like other extremely mobile champions.

GankIrelia1 votes

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Mordekaiser has 0 mobility, and once you have a zhonyas or sash you make his ult near useless. Of course he should have good natural base stats across the board. Do you expect Illaoi to also have terrible base stats even though she has no mobility? They need something going for them. Champions like him get fed off of you making plays, they hardly have playmaking potential like other extremely mobile champions.

That's the thing, they have their gapclosers, such as Mordekaiser's E, and his passive which grants him move speed, making it impossible for you to get away from him. As for Illaoi, she doesn't need her mobility as she has a slow from her, that also spawns her tentacles which deal damage, and also gives her another tentacle from her R. A lot of tentacles

BlackKnightJack4 votes

Mord's pull is a lot harder to land than you seem to think it is.

Trulix911 votes

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Mordekaiser has 0 mobility, and once you have a zhonyas or sash you make his ult near useless. Of course he should have good natural base stats across the board. Do you expect Illaoi to also have terrible base stats even though she has no mobility? They need something going for them. Champions like him get fed off of you making plays, they hardly have playmaking potential like other extremely mobile champions. lol wut? so if a champ has no mobility its ok to give him tanky stand and high damage right? get out!!! there are some adc's with no mobility, can we give them tanky stats??? mordekaiser is broken. a champions should either be tanky and deal less damage or deal damage and squshy. NOT BOTH.

chipndip14 votes

Irelia gets nerfed for pro play reasons, not solo queue reasons. Morde isn't a pro play problem, so they aren't nerfing him since he's not a solo queue problem, either.

Zane Zephyr4 votes

Darius shits on morde.

Darius wants to have prolonged duels with people because of his passive and he wants to be up close and personal. Morde also wants to be up close and personal, but darius can out damage him easily, especially early on.

Meep Man4 votes

Mordekaiser has an Armor Growth of 3.

BlackKnightJack3 votes

Mord's passive has always been manageable. The problem is his shield. The longer the fight goes on the better the chance Mord has at winning it (usually), but the shield is too reliable at making sure that the fight goes as long as he wants it to. Just pick Ren and Mord should shatter.

GankIrelia1 votes

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Mord's passive has always been manageable. The problem is his shield. The longer the fight goes on the better the chance Mord has at winning it (usually), but the shield is too reliable at making sure that the fight goes as long as he wants it to. Just pick Ren and Mord should shatter.

It's manageable but not really that manageable if you understand what i'm saying. His E makes sure that he closes the gap, and his passive makes sure that the gap stays closed.

BlackKnightJack4 votes

Not at all. What I mean is that most champions who want to duel him with his passive up can successfully duel him with his passive up most of the time. The problem comes when he pops his shield and makes it impossible to continue fighting him.

Ragnaveil4 votes

Except most current champs that get played into him that are good rn can actually deal with it.

BlackKnightJack2 votes

That might explain why I have so much success playing against Mord as Darius ever since his nerfs.

Ragnaveil2 votes

Yeah. Your pen is 3x greater than his. Combine the 5 stack passive powerspike, and he has to back the fuck up lol.

BlackKnightJack2 votes

I think it's more that all of that can now out DPS Mord's own passive with his nerfs (Especially when you factor in Darius's ult).

Discipl1ne3 votes

Teemo is more unhealthy, for god's sake. He's CANCEROUS.

R0ses R Red2 votes

Your thread was easy to read, but I don't agree. The difference between Mordekaiser and say Irelia, Akali, Zoe, or Sylas is that he is what he is at face value. He doesn't have the mobility that they have, their safety, their absurd outplay potential, or the ability to just one shot players. He has all these free stats because he's a juggernaut that's meant to overwhelm you. You're supposed to compare him to someone like Darius, who gets free AD, armor pen, dot dmg, and so on. Going by the fact that his banrate is low in comparison to Darius, I think he's fine.

GankIrelia1 votes

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Your thread was easy to read, but I don't agree. The difference between Mordekaiser and say Irelia, Akali, Zoe, or Sylas is that he is what he is at face value. He doesn't have the mobility that they have, their safety, their absurd outplay potential, or the ability to just one shot players. He has all these free stats because he's a juggernaut that's meant to overwhelm you. You're supposed to compare him to someone like Darius, who gets free AD, armor pen, dot dmg, and so on. Going by the fact that his banrate is low in comparison to Darius, I think he's fine.

Mordekaiser can turn a losing match into a winning one with his ult, so he's got a game changing ability that can shift the tide of a match if he just uses it on the carry, while the rest of your team can demolish them. But then again you're right about him being a juggernaut and if the only matchup that he loses is to Darius then that's not healthy for top lane.

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