Smurfing goes the wrong way

Ba Vhalk·Jul 18, 2017·54 votes·2,266 views

Been smurfing with a new player on league but I am already getting annoyed to everything that happens in the 'smurf' world. He is just learning the game but gets flamed every single game just because everyone expects that everyone in their game is smurf. Gets probably a report every single game or gets trashtalked by the enemy team in all chat (Luckily I still haven't told him about that option). Let him learn the game instead of going ham in chat. If you don't want new players in your team, don't smurf please.

And also what I find 'unsportsmanlike' is how people just tunnel vision the new player to get fed off. Enemy team just uses everything on the new player dive their turret or whatever just to get fed and carry the game. Whenever I am in a solo lane and I know my opponent is new I just farm and leave him, I feel bad for stomping a new player and ruin his game/learning experience and instead I go to different smurf lanes. It's pretty obvious to see ingame who is new and who is a smurf so maybe just trying to help him instead of trying to dumpster him? Would be appreciated by him.

Tl;dr I am getting tired of smurfs go wombo combo on a new player and be like: "GGEZ UNINSTALL BRONZE SCRUB" or teams be like: "Please report X for feeding". This game is for fun, not to raise your self-confidence or release your anger.

P.s. Please do something against bots in aram, having 9 bots in your aram games on lower level is retarded.

26 Comments

LostFr0stJul 18, 201718 votes

I know, it's super sad.

However, know that when you queue with him he'll end up with/vs. smurfs since it detects you. If he plays on his own, after a few games he'll get moved to the new player group.

Ba VhalkJul 18, 20172 votes

That's true but when he was playing on his own (since he streams) he got destroyed (maybe 1 or 2 per game were smurfs) so helping him ingame would be nice and improves him and I can help him as well to learn the ingame aspects without him doing it himself like I had to do. And I am not such a good smurf, it's not that I am like plat or something

LostFr0stJul 18, 20178 votes

Try asking him directly then. Explain to him the pros and cons of you helping him so that when he gets destroyed he at least knows why. He'll appreciate it eventually.

Just don't use the excuse "you're doing great, they're just smurfs" since that doesn't help him. You'll need tough love such as explaining and showing in a custom game just how much damage minions do first. He'll be miles ahead of the competition with just that.

I still remember how frustrating games were when my brother was there with me, and that was back in season 4.

Ba VhalkJul 18, 20173 votes

He knows that he is playing against better players because he experienced it in playstyle already. If I am ingame I will always try to give him some attention points to improve his gameplay, no matter if it were smurfs or whatnot. Like his map awareness (which is hard) last hitting (which I adviced him to pratice in the tool if he wants to do it alone). And he doesn't get angry, he is still having fun which is great and he doesn't seem to care about having smurfs in the teams. It's more of the behavior towards him from others in the game that is frustrating rahter than playing against/with them (from both our views).

Addition: But maybe some sort of mercy instead of going 5v1 tower dive him babysit his lane would be appreciated. I can teach him everything I can and want but I can't prevent that.

LostFr0stJul 18, 20173 votes

Ahh, I see. Well If that's truly the case he'll be fine then as long as you report those scrubs doing that when it's /all chat (since he can't see it but you can) and let him report it the games he directly sees it.

Only one of you need to report per game though, multireports don't make it "more reported."

I legit think you should show the minion thing in a custom game though. Get him to auto you while you're sitting in the wave and don't hit him back. It's an extremely useful piece of information that I wish more players knew earlier.

Ba VhalkJul 18, 20172 votes

Maybe the auto with minions is a good idea, thanks for the tip

LostFr0stJul 18, 20171 votes

Wish your brother good luck on his journey and streaming for me. Good luck to both of you in your games.

CowseedJul 18, 20171 votes

Just spectate or something. Birds fly by pushing their offsping off dangerous heights.

Sometimes you just have to let 'em go, dude. 😢😢😢😢

Hyrum GraffJul 18, 20171 votes

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That's true but when he was playing on his own (since he streams) he got destroyed (maybe 1 or 2 per game were smurfs) so helping him ingame would be nice and improves him and I can help him as well to learn the ingame aspects without him doing it himself like I had to do. And I am not such a good smurf, it's not that I am like plat or something

Did he get smurfs in his games before you started playing with him or after? Because if you win basically any of the games you play together, there's a good chance his account will be flagged as a smurf, too.

DukuesJul 18, 20176 votes

I quit trying to get friends into this game a long time ago. I know what a shit show it is and don't want to have anyone else experience it. Plus playing in those games with them feels so damn terrible.

CowseedJul 18, 20173 votes

I think it's because you play with the dude he gets smurfs more often. On my main when I was leveling up other players sucked as much as me. On my smurf I actually got matched with golds and plats in some cases. Let him play bots or just over see him but I do agree that smurfs are little bitches for going ham on the newbies (though I sometimes do that myself so I guess I fall in that catagory)

ThefrostyvikingJul 18, 20172 votes

Yeah, and in addition to smurfs all the toxic wastes who got banned and made new accounts are down there too a good deal of the time.

Lol is anything but newbie friendly :(

MonkeyMadnessJul 19, 20172 votes

I mean, here's the issue: you are boosting his hidden mmr to the point where you guys only get matched with other smurfs. Had you just let him go on his own and given him guidance instead of babysitting him, he'd be at an mmr range where he'd mostly only get other new players.

PoskeJul 18, 20171 votes

**Survival of the fittest **

TwitchInMyPantsJul 18, 20171 votes

Don't even bother with normals until around lv20, just stick to bots and featured modes. Yes they'll learn the game slower but its for the best, the last friend I taught the game had to deal with shit every time we went into norms and when you get around lv30 where it's not some smurfs of toxic players that got perma'd or someone looking for easy games to stomp, the games normalize a lot more.

Snow TeaJul 18, 20171 votes

there are full of bots in twisted treeline 3v3.

aspects1Jul 19, 20171 votes

i have 550 aram wins, and have yet to see a bot maybe its just me

YambrinZJul 19, 20171 votes

Make a smurf. At low levels youll be lucky to ever come across an actual person.

aspects1Jul 20, 20171 votes

who plays arams before level 30? like your entire champion pool is gonna be the free week lol

Ba VhalkJul 19, 20171 votes

Make a new account, play during the late hours when I play and then you should be happy to see an actual player

aspects1Jul 20, 20171 votes

who plays arams before level 30? like your entire champion pool is gonna be the free week lol

Ba VhalkJul 20, 20171 votes

When I started playing on my main I went to ARAM because I could figure out the champs and people wouldn't flame as in normal games. After playing like 5 normal games I got flamed a lot already so ARAM was peaceful and back then you didn't have a lot of bots like you do now

YambrinZJul 19, 20171 votes

2 of my friends didnt even make it level 20 before quitting because too many people were shit talking in BOT GAMES. So when they asked if that is normal behavior in this game im like "yeah it gets worse in ranked etc".

Ba VhalkJul 19, 20171 votes

I understand that most people say: Don't duo with him to not make him face smurfs, but it's not the point here. I've been smurfing before for fun and still I had like 1/2 new players in my games eventho I was a smurf. Same with games I play with him I sometimes still see new people in our games. The fact that bothers me is that those smurfs just stomp them and be toxic to them even when they are trying to learn the game. Yes there will be less smurfs if you're new but there will sometimes still be a smurf in the enemy team or in your team even if you're new.

Eric SenpaiJul 19, 20171 votes

I'm trying to teach someone this game too so I made a new account. I didn't do any PvP games so my me wasn't set yet. We got people bm'ing my friend in a bit game. Such petty people.

I plan in doing PvP with her soon and only intervening if there's another Smurf on the other team.