Predicting rylais will be a mordekaiser buff

ScissorsNstuff··5 votes·675 views

It hurts his lategame but even with the old item 3116 his lategame is shit.

he will now be getting his rylais faster than some champs get boots

If you need a slow stop feeding, actually farm, and get your fucking item 3146 ready faster


Haunting Guise •Total cost lowered to 1500g from 1600g ◦[Combine cost lowered by 100g]

Liandry's Torment •Total cost lowered to 3100 from 3200

Rylai's Crystal Scepter •Total cost lowered to 2600g from 3200g •Recipe now: Blasting Wand + Amp Tome + Ruby Crystal + gold. •Stats & Effect :

+300 Health +75 Ability Power UNIQUE Passive: Damaging spells and abilities reduce enemy movement speed by 20% for 1 second.

•Stat changes vs live: [-100 HP][-25 AP][Passive change]

http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/624-pbe-cycle.html#balance3 http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Mordekaiser

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Maximum Morde1 votes

I'm in a similar boat. I think it will help his early game slightly at the cost of hurting his late a little bit. Leaving him overall pretty similar.

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

typo?

Maximum Morde1 votes

Yep.

ACENOX1 votes

dafuq did i read?

do you play morde? Because his late game isn't shit, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4X-lcArk5g

Mordekaiser has a shit late game, No just No This rylai change is a double or quits, either you get your core build so fast you destroy the enemies, or you end up with trash base stats and get destroyed.

The slow change is also terrible, gunblade isn't that good on him because you end up squishy unless you sacrifice your other items to be tanky and thus don't build item 3285 item 3100 for examples, but also item 3135 who is 100% requiered to draintank people without the healing of your ulti being cut by MR. Gunblade has also a cooldown

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

what is this video even.

can't see items, you're showing me a slowing effect in slow motion... really?

And then mordekaiser doesn't even seem to do much here. He just pops a zhonya's and runs away while Lucian does all the work

The only reason it was even a double is because fiora decided to be cute and try to kill mordekaiser

also why are Lucian and mordekaiser level 18 while yasuo is level 14 and kat level 16

This isn't even plat is it?

This rylai change is a double or quits, either you get your core build so fast you destroy the enemies, or you end up with trash base stats and get destroyed.

games get shorter as you rise in rank so for anyone above a certain level its "double or quits" one way or another

here's the difference between ranks last year

http://www.leaguemath.com/match-duration-analysis/

and riot has actually been trying to SHORTEN these games.

The slow change is also terrible, gunblade isn't that good on him because you end up squishy unless you sacrifice your other items

rylais will be 1000 gold cheaper. You can get your other stuff even faster now

http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Mordekaiser

if gunblade isn't that good on him then why does EVERY successful pro build on probuilds utilize it?

if anything this is making a cheese alternative build unviable but I believe this will be a buff to mordekaiser in general

ACENOX1 votes

Lol, so we're going to forget the insane amount of damaged tanked by shield+healing, and morde killing graves+ezreal

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also why are Lucian and mordekaiser level 18 while yasuo is level 14 and kat level 16

Yasuo was afk for 30 min

{quoted} rylais will be 1000 gold cheaper. You can get your other stuff even faster now

600 gold*

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if gunblade isn't that good on him then why does EVERY successful pro build on probuilds utilize it?

i'm fucking tired of poeple showing me stats, NO ONE GIVES A FUCK get into a morde game and try to build rylai+liandry+hextech gunblade at your first 3 items and see the result

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

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Lol, so we're going to forget the insane amount of damaged tanked by shield+healing, and morde killing graves+ezreal

Why not since were already ignoring the fact that:

  1. wukong popped most of grave's lifelines
  2. level 13 thresh in a silver level game left graves to die
  3. graves only died because he stopped to autoattack a mordekaiser
  4. mordekaiser only mattered here because these people obviously didn't understand how mordekaiser works or at least not new mordekaiser
  5. Lucian and wukong did most of the hard work, mordekaiser was a sub par prop that could easily be replaced with many other champs in this particular scenario. This would probably not even show his usefulness with the old rylais off even if you did show the items.

Yasuo was afk for 30 min

which demonstrates this may not have even been a fair matchup if you're doing this well. Apparently thresh was too.

600 gold*

sry was factoring in the other stuff that had gone down in price

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i'm fucking tired of poeple showing me stats, NO ONE GIVES A FUCK get into a morde game and try to build rylai+liandry+hextech gunblade at your first 3 items and see the result

Who even said this?

and why would I play mordekaiser if all I have to do is deny him early gold to gimp him so he either can't finish item 3116 item 3146 in time or has to go with some shitty glass build?

Malicious Metal2 votes

I build those as my first three item and I win 80% of those games.

ACENOX1 votes

you're better than me with morde, i die most of the time and i need to get tankier item 3053 saves me a lot of time, the shield prevents morde to be destroyed without him unable to do anything (most of the time)

BladeSteel1 votes

So if you're actually good at the game you build rylai+liandry+hextech. If you're trash you don't...interesting XD

Malicious Metal1 votes

It'll be bearable but a nerf regardless. Mordekaiser loved the 40% slow and the stats, they were all he wanted in a neatly wrapped up package.

It won't outright gut him but he'll suffer in some scenarios, especially since he has literally the worst base MS in the entire game.

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

doesn't this also mean that theres one less item to counter mordekaiser with at the same time though xD

I mean by that shit on ahri, karthus, or supports just because I can press W and walk away from him laughing.

and then there's still the gunblade thing and item 3742 item 3285 item 3100 item 3078

I just put item 3078 because anyone can use it cuz silly item

I say that this is very plainly a tempo buff.

ShaolinToilet1 votes

He's still a stronger than average champ

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

getting mixed results but it seems to actually be a buff

http://www.lolking.net/champions/mordekaiser#!/overview

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

lolking continues to show positive trends overtime

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