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Fiora Still needs to be tuned back after her rework

Iqqi·12/27/2015, 1:46:50 AM·2 votes·456 views

Hey all. So even after Fioras rework she certainly needs to be adjusted still. Yes after her rework it is actually possible to kill her and she doesnt ult and just destroy a team, however even after her rework she needs to be tuned.

League has always talked about how champions have strengths and weaknesses. Fiora right now has no weakness. She has a decent early game, she has an engage, a block and a strong ult. She has super high burst damage and scales better than almost every other ADC in the game.

She has to have a weakness. If she is supposed to still be able to solo entire teams and carry super hard with 4-6 items than her early game needs to be tuned way down. right now there is no obvious weak time for Fiora. The opposing team has a countdown timer the momenyt the game starts. If Fiora gets 4-5 items it becomes almost impossible for the other team to win.

Either her scaling needs to be tuned down or her early game needs to be smashed. Additionally the "weakness" spots are huge! the graphic does not represent the area. Her passive just needs to be changed. There needs to be a timer or something. You can not just late the weakness spot stay on an enemy indefinitely. It is be far one of the strongest passives in the game. The weakness size needs to be scaled down and there needs to be some sort of timer. It is a terrible design to just let her have weaknesses against enemy champions indefinitely. It is an extreme oversite and a failure from the designers.

There was a ton of controversy around the Fiora rework. Specifically around her graphic mode rework. Instead my complaint is completely around the champion design. If you read their Fiora post change post Riot released recently you read that they want her to be a duelist. In any sort of duel there is a winner or a loser, just like in any lane trade. However there is no "duel" mechanic with Fiora you just gave her a Rapier and renamed her abilities. She is never punished for failing to execute a move. I just dont know what you designers are thinking. You dont even understand the definition of dueling. If you want to make a champion around fencing and dueling try to learn something about the sport, how its played anything to that liking. There is a risk component in fencing. Learn what the right of way is in fencing.

Honestly I just dont get Fiora. The designers failed to create a fencing champion that anyone with any knowledge of the game would respect. They failed to create a champion that has a weakness or a poor phase and again they created a very strong late game champion who has insane 1v1 potential without any weakness. there is no risk reward with Fiora. Just embarrassing how badly they did on her rework.

2 Comments

Slamurai Jack12/27/2015, 4:52:59 AM1 votes

Not a single game of Fiora? Why am I not surprised? No wonder you know almost nothing about her. I could make a long post about how what most of what you said is wrong, but I'm going to keep it simple. Go play her. Play 10 games of Fiora. I guarantee those 10 games will give some insight into her weaknesses.

Weiner the Pooh12/27/2015, 10:37:28 PM1 votes

Most of your shit is wrong, friend. She does have a weakness, two in fact. 1) is she is super susceptible to bullying (e.g. her early game is weak), her passive is super low early and her Q cd is too high to be able to skirmish effectively and and her W cd is way too high for how little its effect will last. 2) Teamfights. She is entirely single target so just force team fights. Her passive does not stay indefinitely, it resets after 15 seconds and has a 1200 range limit meaning walking out of range will reset it. What do you mean she has no punishment for failing an ability? her Q goes on a high cd if you miss it, her W has an extremely high cd at all ranks meaning if you miss it your'e fucked and failing her R mean your'e dead. Look friend, if your'e going to make a hate post make sure you know what your'e talking about, most of your other points i didn't comment about are also super incorrect.