I thought Vayne was supposed to be a tankbuster, so why does she EASILY win a 1v1 with me (tristana) without even landing condemn while she's 2/3 and I'm 7/1????? She is godtier at killing tanks and godtier at killing squishies. Does she have any weaknesses at all?
Drunken Yasuo13 votesmuh weak early game
Heckin Support4 votes[{quoted}](name=Drunken Yasuo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4Nbf08Gd,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-08-19T23:30:11.262+0000)
muh weak early game
To add on to this, people think she's easily beaten early by pokes or trying to trade, but people also forget she's the only adc who is actually meant to rush lifesteal. Which makes her harder to hurt her earlygame.
JedenVojak1 votesThere is nothing preventing any other ADC from building life steal earlier in the game, if they feel they need more help sustaining vs the Vayne or winning trades.
disregardable5 votesHer range. You know why she wrecked you? Because you didn't buster shot her away after she tumbled to abuse your range.
Xizz3l3 votes[{quoted}](name=The AFK Farmer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4Nbf08Gd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-19T23:25:16.513+0000)
Her range. You know why she wrecked you? Because you didn't buster shot her away after she tumbled to abuse your range.
550 range is low
Okay then :^)
OperationDEEZ12 votesinb4butmuhpinkwardsbutmuhcc
Narasimha2 votesThat... honestly sounds like its just you. If she managed to get all her damage off before you, then you're just not playing Tristana right. Or it was a godly level Vayne, in which case, it wouldn't have mattered now matter what.
WutsKraken2 votes
Hi Vayne, I am stronger than you early game and midgame and can 1v1 you with ease lategame while having a much larger teamfight presence the instant I hit lvl 6
EDIT: Haters gonna hate
RedCyclone3 votesI also get shat on by every support in the game
WutsKraken1 votesAnd so does Vayne...and a decent amount of other ADC's...
If Twitch gets his ass handed to him by the enemy support alone, well what the hell is his support doing? Or better yet, what the hell is he doing?
excodar7 votes
If that was the case twitch would be the one being complained about.
WutsKraken1 votesYou see, he isn't complained about or played a bunch because he's a lot easier to counter than Vayne, especially after nerfs. However in a Twitch vs Vayne matchup, he comes out on top.
Vayne's only strength over Twitch is that she snowballs harder than him and is safer. But I'll happily take Twitch vs Vayne anyday because I know I can stomp her and be more useful than her most of the game
IceKingChernobog1 votesi wish that was the case, he cant counter her anymore when he got bitch slapped with riot's nerf sledehammer
MetaAwesome1 votesDon't worry, he's got....0/2/4 bonus Ad....on his Ult...which is an active....bloody hell.
Meanwhile, taking off 5 AD on Kayle....
WutsKraken1 votesHe still can. His E stacks and poison are stronger than Vayne earlygame and his only weakness vs Vayne is that she's safer than him in teamfights or ganks and that Vayne snowballs harder than him
Just like with everyone else vs Vayne: Don't be an idiot and get rekt when you're stronger than her
Here's an example of how Twitch can decently counter Vayne: First demo Vayne was actually ahead of Twitch in level
Elkington2 votesVayne is also an assassin, which means she excels at killing squishies. She just also happens to be a tank buster for whatever reason. No one is safe from %max hp damage, much less true damage.
Duchess of Deer1 votesprob because she ulted which puts her ad on par with yours as well as giving her invis
not to mention from looking at that match you were vs a diamond 4 vayne if anything you should just complain about riot's shitty matchmaking
also one of the lanes I hate most as vayne is trist your level 6 is so much stronger with a 300 damage point and click ult as well as being very safe in teamfights
Silents4291 votesUm, what the hell were the items, because that sounds like a fuckup on your end not Leagues. By scenarios I can think up you should have won that easily.
MakeABronziesDay1 voteslets be honest, if youre a 7-1 trist and lost to a 2-3 vayne (assuming you're up in items and not fighting with 1/2 hp vs full hp)...you missplayed thats on you. not vayne.
KatCraft2 votesVayne's kit and powerspike with Bork means she doesn't need a lot of gold to duel and beat other carries 1v1.
7-1 trist should still beat a 2-3 vayne but she still has the potential to win if the trist messes up slightly, NO OTHER ADC IN THE GAME CAN SAY THAT.
think about it.
Qarekeo1 votesI see Tristana as more focused on team-fighting and objective-taking than dueling with other ADCs. Her kit's more suited to being protected and doing area damage and doesn't quite have that effectiveness against really mobile damage dealers. That, and her damage is a bit delayed compared to most ADCs because her Explosive Shot takes some hits in to do its work.
If you lost a fight against her when you were that far ahead however, I think that's just a case of either straight-up losing a fight or getting caught in a REALLY bad position. Try to stick with the tanks on your team during fights and you should be fine.
Despite all that, I still think Vayne's too dominant right now and hope the do something about it soon.
O Fallen Scholar1 votesI thought Vayne was supposed to be a tankbuster, so why does she EASILY win a 1v1 with me (tristana) without even landing condemn while she's 2/3 and I'm 7/1????? She is godtier at killing tanks and godtier at killing squishies. Does she have any weaknesses at all?
Because of her stealth and attack speed bolts. Or you just were behind overall or played it badly. Vayne actually wins every 1 v 1 unless opponent outplayes her. Yes, she is a duelist and tank shredder. Vayne simply has advantage when she stealths for 1 second. That means she shoots out her projectile first. Now add attack speed and AD steroid for bonus. Landing condemn is a HUGE bonus and guaranteed kill actually.
Finn Teh Human1 votesA lot of people also don't see that her secondary is 'Assassin'. Which means she's also good at 1v1 and Vayne as a champion is known for being one of the best duelists in the game. Not to mention for all we know she outplayed you.
