Serious question to everyone on this board complaining about x champ being op

Soulstorm10·8/17/2015, 2:09:17 PM·28 votes·2,063 views

Have you considered adapting to the situation?

I'm talking about different itemization, different team comps to best deal with threats.

When you are getting destroyed by a riven, for the love of god buy some armor instead of a tiamat.

Are you dying often as a marksman? Try getting a BT instead of IE for that extra shield and lifesteal.

Getting destroyed by that AP mid? Maybe pick up some MR instead of that first item deathcap.

Team getting destroyed by AS reliant champs? Frozen heart rush gg ez.

Note: I'm not saying everything has a 'perfect' counter however a tiny bit of judgement and insight goes a long way.

If you make a mistake once, good, it's a learning experience. Make it again and you deserve whatever follows.

I'll prepare myself for downvotes now.

45 Comments

Miraweave8/17/2015, 8:35:39 PM7 votes

Yes. I will attempt to adapt to the situation of playing against a Rengar as Varus by building item 3143 item 3110 item 3075

CasterGilgamesh8/17/2015, 10:40:23 PM5 votes

what you are saying is just ridiculous....we need to complain about this or else nothing changes. why should people have to adapt to toxic champions just to keep their mains happy?! and overall i'm only mad about Fizz Vayne Rengar and the item item 3930 since it makes champions like Shyvana Kayle and MasterYi flat out broken.so no op we will not stop bitching about these until they are fixed.

teewee938/17/2015, 5:46:17 PM3 votes

Me personally don't believe any champion is op every chain has a counter and some are just harder to counter instead of op I would love if people just say what it actually is that champ is annoying it not op it annoying and I don't like playing against it or I don't know how to play against it

Toa of Death8/17/2015, 7:48:03 PM3 votes

B-but.....those items don't increase my damage and allow me to solo carry. If I solo carry I'll prove I deserve challenjour and that it was my toxic teammates holding me back all along.

EndlessSorcerer8/17/2015, 2:29:07 PM3 votes

Why go through the effort of learning how to adapt their playstyle or how a champion works when they can just complain on the forums and beg for nerfs?

Ser Garland8/17/2015, 3:29:09 PM3 votes

Can't really itemize against vayne. And an entire enemy team trying to build and play against one champion, when that champion's team can basically pick freely into counter itemizing against your team is a severe disadvantage.

Nameless Voice8/17/2015, 8:47:22 PM2 votes

I actually don't really complain about champions being overpowered that much. What I really hate is champions who are badly designed and have low counterplay.

I don't like when I automatically lose a lane or a game because of my pick vs their pick. I find that far less fun than just losing the game because the enemy champion is slightly stronger than mine.

A fair number of the threads saying that a champion is overpowered and demanding nerfs are probably also because of this, but often people don't properly understand or articulate the difference.

Silents4298/17/2015, 4:44:48 PM2 votes

No because this would require people to stop being dumbasses and think for once.

It's easier to spout overpowered to anyone beating you rather then thinking that whoever you fought against was simply better then you. Vayne and Riven mains or non mains will list weaknesses while QQ's will try hard to make those weaknesses seem minor, instead of focusing on changing their own playstyle to fit against them.

The Bíg Ticket8/18/2015, 1:11:09 AM2 votes

How do I adapt to Jinx AoE critting my team for 1500 damage from 700 range?

Lugg8/18/2015, 4:14:27 AM2 votes

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When you are getting destroyed by a riven, for the love of god buy some armor instead of a tiamat.

Riven then buys item 3035 GG since you wasted all that gold on armor

Are you dying often as a marksman? Try getting a BT instead of IE for that extra shield and lifesteal.

I now do no damage and therefore can't lifesteal enough to stay alive, so I am now totally useless.

Getting destroyed by that AP mid? Maybe pick up some MR instead of that first item deathcap.

I do no damage as a carry and I am worthless to the team.

Team getting destroyed by AS reliant champs? Frozen heart rush gg ez.

AS reduction is so minor since enemy has stacked so much AS.

While a lot of the OP posts are just QQ, some champions are legitimately OP and need nerfs. For instance, if you don't think Fizz is OP, you know Jack shit about the game and Jack left town.

Blade of Justic8/17/2015, 5:13:27 PM1 votes

I dislike Vayne, but I'm easily able to handle her.

With that being said, Phreak DID say that the best way to fight a Vayne is not to do so solo and to bring someone along.

Not sure I consider that to be a healthy position for a champ to be in. "You have to 2v1 them." only results in you pulling power away from other things like that 4v3 team fight that you just lost because you needed a buddy to help you stop the backdooring Vayne.

Once again, not complaining, just confused.

Feathermane8/17/2015, 3:24:13 PM1 votes

No man, Riven is OP and nothing ever beats her, as evidenced by her 0/infinity beatdown in the only lcs match she was played in.

UdoIkOSc4u8/17/2015, 2:29:56 PM1 votes

the best thing is this only makes vayne op while the other champ is true

Lavaniel8/17/2015, 11:51:38 PM1 votes

Ashe item 3110 item 3143 item 3075 VS Vayne

Damn, damn, damn. That fucking true damage

It k, I'll sell all my adc items and build item 3083

item 3153

Fuck you, op true damage and percent health

Enchanté8/18/2015, 1:02:55 PM1 votes

This is SO true, especially as a Kat main, getting a penta or quadra each game with people all chatting "lmao Kat gg ez champ no skill bronze noob" is just so normal to me now. item 3070 Katarina

The12thman948/18/2015, 3:31:41 AM1 votes

My favorite is when no one buys a item 3075 against Tryndamere

Phife8/18/2015, 4:07:25 AM1 votes

No, no i have not.

g07h4xf008/18/2015, 5:39:31 PM1 votes

"Just hard CC them"

SolusInCadere8/18/2015, 7:54:06 AM1 votes

What you are suggesting is a double-edged-sword. On the one hand, players should be punished for not adapting to each individual game. On the other hand, if a champion forces a specific play style or build path just to get on even footing with them, that could be bad.

Using your Riven example, not building armor should put you at a disadvantage. But building armor should then give you the upper hand, not place you on equal footing. Because now you've spent upwards of 1000 gold just to get an even fight, and she can pump 1000 gold into AD and Armor pen.

BuzzinTate8/18/2015, 8:17:00 AM1 votes

all i know is champs that dont require energy or mana can lane easier and typically have more damage in the long run.

Akali DrMundo Aatrox Katarina RekSai Shyvana Vladimir Zed Yasuo Garen

WolfChases8/17/2015, 7:56:00 PM1 votes

Dude, no one gives a damn about advices look:

I have played ADC with Soraka support vs Vayne and Blitz...5 times in a row she died the same way trying to ward the bush.

She saw their blitz in the bush, went to ward it, got pulled, condamned, killed.

5 times in a row literally the same way even if I told her not to do that and naha....She said to me "I am going to ward and help you to see that blitzkrank idiot" - Yes Soraka GG not even God can help me now against 5/0 Vayne in laning phase.

Yosuke Apperu8/17/2015, 8:25:05 PM1 votes

Aside from CC ( Which is everyones counter). Vayne doesn't seem to have one. You can't itemize against percent max health true damage my friend. Slowing her attack speed doesnt matter because. Auto > tumble > condemn.