Whats gonna happen with Blind Pick?

weasley009·Jan 18, 2016·2 votes·669 views

So the new champ select is AWESOME. But will it be being integrated into blind pick anytime soon? And if it is, how would that work?

10 Comments

disregardableJan 18, 20162 votes

Yes.

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No bans, everyone picks at once (like live), but with positions "assigned" based on your lobby preference. If you were assigned support and you really wanted to play Trundle support, that's cool. If you get assigned support, but you wanted jungle so you pick Trundle to go jungle and ruin your ACTUAL jungle's day, not cool - that's trolling.

The JigSAWJan 18, 20162 votes

Well, we already had this. Its called TEAM BUILDER and should be brought back immediately. Given the fact this is now the second time in four days the new champ select is down for maintenance, Riot, it might be a sign...

weasley009Jan 18, 20163 votes

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Well, we already had this. Its called TEAM BUILDER and should be brought back immediately. Given the fact this is now the second time in four days the new champ select is down for maintenance, Riot, it might be a sign...

Dude, calm down. This new system is way better than teambuilder. But remember, they're trying to launch a brand new shin toy. Its gonna have problems. It sucks, but its gonna happen. I'm just happy that they looked at team builder and saw a way to make it better.

You gotta remember though, they're using new stuff with the old client. It will have problems, the old clients a piece of crap, which is why they're building a new one, but that'll take time. Saying, oh wow, something new in the programming world is buggy, therefore we should get rid of it is silly. Otherwise, we'd still have the same champ roster of S1.

Anyway, I like team builder too. It was all I played when I didn't do ranked. However, they used team builder concepts to make this new stuff, and if you can't see how awesome it is, then we'll have to agree to disagree.

Regardless, have a good day.

The JigSAWJan 19, 20162 votes

Yes, it is quite an awesome system. I enjoyed last night sitting in the lobby for eight minutes with two friends, getting about 10 matches thrown out at the last champ select because people forgot to lock in their picks or dodged intentionally, and then having my two picks randomly chosen - several times my friend, who had top as a secondary, got top and I got jungle, which was my secondary, and top a primary. Same thing happened with mid/jungle for two other friends, whoever had it primary almost never got it.

Team Builder was not perfect, but it allowed you a guarantee of the champ and role you wanted. This system is basically blind pick normal games with 250% extra wait time.

Fixing the client won't fix the fact that Team Builder cured normal blind pick - crazy as this seems, not all of us want to sit in a draft picking and counterpicking when all we want to do is just play a damn game. Do I think this has the potential to be awesome? No. Mostly because I'm not a big "ban everything you can't fight" fan, I'm a "learn to adapt and fight them" fan. Because of that attitude, I was able to overcome champions I had tons of difficulty with.

All I'm hearing is 99% horror stories on either wait times or matchmaking - it makes no sense man. If you cure a disease (toxic blind pick normal) why remove the cure and keep the disease?

weasley009Jan 26, 20161 votes

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Yes, it is quite an awesome system. I enjoyed last night sitting in the lobby for eight minutes with two friends, getting about 10 matches thrown out at the last champ select because people forgot to lock in their picks or dodged intentionally, and then having my two picks randomly chosen - several times my friend, who had top as a secondary, got top and I got jungle, which was my secondary, and top a primary. Same thing happened with mid/jungle for two other friends, whoever had it primary almost never got it.

Team Builder was not perfect, but it allowed you a guarantee of the champ and role you wanted. This system is basically blind pick normal games with 250% extra wait time.

Fixing the client won't fix the fact that Team Builder cured normal blind pick - crazy as this seems, not all of us want to sit in a draft picking and counterpicking when all we want to do is just play a damn game. Do I think this has the potential to be awesome? No. Mostly because I'm not a big "ban everything you can't fight" fan, I'm a "learn to adapt and fight them" fan. Because of that attitude, I was able to overcome champions I had tons of difficulty with.

All I'm hearing is 99% horror stories on either wait times or matchmaking - it makes no sense man. If you cure a disease (toxic blind pick normal) why remove the cure and keep the disease?

I have played blinds, which is exactly why I love Dynamic Que. Its not perfect, but then, neither was team builder. having to wait for a support was the bane of my existence, forcing myself or someone I know to play it just so we could play a damn game. This new Que fixes that. Are there going to be bugs, yes. its new. New things tend to have problems. You gotta give Riot time to work out the kinks. Its way to early to be condemning the new system just because your stuck on the old system. Besides, from what I can tell, they'll be bringing this system to blinds, just without bans. Except now, instead of everyone yelling at each other over roles, everyone will have their roles assigned based on what they wanted. Its a great system, which on its own, solves a lot of problems with matchmaking. Besides, riot isn't going to get rid of it just cause a few want teambuilder back. So fuckle up and get ready, boys. A glorious future awaits, and you can either gripe in the past, or flourish in the future. Your choice.

DrCyanideJan 18, 20161 votes

No, we didn't have this before. We had "I only care about myself, not my Team" Builder. If Team Builder had the flexibility Blind Pick has then it would have been Blind Pick, not Team Builder, that was removed.

The JigSAWJan 19, 20161 votes

Have you ever actually played normal blind pick? I can give you the experience in about five sentences:

"ADC ADC ADC I CALLED ADC" "But we already have an ADC, they called it first" "I DON'T CARE IM GOING ADC I WENT 24/0 LAST GAME" "If he's ADC I'm dodging. Or I won't gank.." "...Wait, jungle, where's your smite? Oh god its starting!!!"

I am proud to have over 1300 teamwork honors and a teamwork crest because I -do- care about my team. I try everything to help us win. The blind pick as it now is worse than Team Builder, what we need is to incorporate a blind pick that has the two role choices, but also no bans so you can pick your champ and head on out.

Or, just add team builder since it did all of that for nearly three years...

DrCyanideJan 19, 20161 votes

I primarily play Blind Pick. Experiences like that are far rarer than Team Builder enthusiasts seem to think. I can't remember the last time an argument over roles broke out that wasn't settled by "so-and-so had it first".

what we need is to incorporate a blind pick that has the two role choices, but also no bans so you can pick your champ and head on out.

And that's the next step that's planned.

IgotlazyJan 18, 20161 votes

I'm pretty sure they're going to remake Blind Pick as well. They're not going to change the mechanics of the Mode but instead use the visual assets from the new Champion select to keep it up to date.

The Sword SaintJan 19, 20161 votes

yes
its going to be some blend of new champ select and teambuilder, but they need more data on how new champ select works out to help decide what to do.