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@Riot Current Patch Fiora Changes

What Is Smite··1 votes·680 views

So this patch Fiora got her ultimate nerfed really badly despite all the protests against it. What the nerf to her ultimate did essentially was that it reduced the Total Damage she did in teamfights. Her single target Ult damage is now the exact same as her Teamfight Ult damage meaning they gutted her Teamfight potential, which I believe they did not mean to do. I am a Fiora main and I am demanding Riot revert the changes to Fiora's ult or talk with people who main Fiora to achieve a compromise as to how much damage her ult does, how much the scaling is, and how much the damage reduction per hit after the initial is. I want every Fiora main to post their comments and show support for the inhumanity that we as champion mains face. TALK TO US RIOT WE DON'T BITE WE JUST WANT A SAY ON WHAT YOU ARE CHANGING ABOUT THE CHAMPIONS WE PLAY AND WE ALSO WANT YOU TO COOPERATE WITH US, COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY WILL MAKE YOUR JOBS EASIER. To all the mains who never get a say in changes to your main champ please upvote this so that Riot Games can't ignore us.

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Kowe The Ewok1 votes

I have seen a lot of Fioras doing well lately, even after the nerf.

She still seems to perform really well.

However, she does need a rework. She is too binary. Some guy posted a few goodsuggestions a few days ago and got quite a lot upvotes + a red response.

What Is Smite1 votes

If you're talking about the fencer's perspective of Fiora's kit yea i saw it but not with a red's reply. I also put up a rework on her kit from what they released as a teaser/expirimental ultimate for a new kit if I find it I will link it in this via edit

EDIT: here's the link for you

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/XeWrjBHx-fiora-rework

Kingsgrave1 votes

They directly nerfed her ability to Teamfight because a lot of Fioras in high elo rushed Ravenous Hydra and basically destroyed an entire team with one Ultimate. She is the GRAND DUELIST not the GRAND TEAMFIGHTER.

What Is Smite1 votes

I'm sorry but hydra rush is common in all elo's and to an enemy team that has zero armor you should be feeling the pain of Fiora's ultimate to a large extent because you failed to build at least some armor. What Riot did was gut her ultimate in teamfights so that it feels like everyone on the enemy team has 200 armor without even buying any, that definitely needs to be changed and between PBE and Live there are not many people who actually do play Fiora so Riot's changes to her ultimate were arbitrary towards the players that actually do play her.

Kingsgrave1 votes

I'm sorry but hydra rush is common in all elo's and to an enemy team that has zero armor you should be feeling the pain of Fiora's ultimate to a large extent because you failed to build at least some armor. What Riot did was gut her ultimate in teamfights so that it feels like everyone on the enemy team has 200 armor without even buying any, that definitely needs to be changed and between PBE and Live there are not many people who actually do play Fiora so Riot's changes to her ultimate were arbitrary towards the players that actually do play her.

She makes herself untargetable and has the potential of dealing a great amount of damage while gaining the full effects of lifesteal. She is a low counterplay champion to begin with and honestly shouldn't have that much teamfighting potential when she already has a great deal of 1v1 and assassination power.

What Is Smite1 votes

You could make the same argument for Master Yi but his Q applies critical chance and Lifesteal. You could make the argument that all you have to do is CC Master Yi to make him useless, but in effect it's the same situation with Fiora. What I am trying to say is that they went overboard with the nerf this patch, they didn't need to nerf her ratio, damage reduction, and damage. Only nerfing one of them would have worked out to balance her not all 3 at the same time.

Kingsgrave1 votes

You could make the same argument for Master Yi but his Q applies critical chance and Lifesteal. You could make the argument that all you have to do is CC Master Yi to make him useless, but in effect it's the same situation with Fiora. What I am trying to say is that they went overboard with the nerf this patch, they didn't need to nerf her ratio, damage reduction, and damage. Only nerfing one of them would have worked out to balance her not all 3 at the same time.

Yi's doesn't do nearly as much damage, cover nearly as many champions, doesn't entirely focus champions and lasts maybe a third of the time Fiora's does.

What Is Smite1 votes

Actually Yi's Q and Fiora's ultimate hit the same number of champions, Yi's hit his initial target and up to 3 others, Fiora's hits it initial target 2 times meaning that the other 3 hits in the ultimate can hit up to 3 other champions. Fiora's ult last longer than Yi's Q but because it is an ultimate and Riot dedicates atleast 30 frames (I think that's the exact number but I might be wrong) to the majority of champion's ultimates, however her ultimate is on a 110 second CD at rank 1 while Yi's Q is on a much shorter CD and the CD is reduced by .5s each time he aa's. Yi's Q offers exactly what Fiora's ultimate does but on much lower CD and it is more spammable not to mention that in the time it takes for Fiora to get her ultimate back the damage from Master Yi's Q outdamages her ult altogether. Also I do believe that Master Yi's Q does prioritize champions over minions

WeG1 votes

Her powerspike used to hit @ Tiamat/hydra. It just hits a little later now is all.

What Is Smite1 votes

As the current Fiora stands she is more of a copy of Zed than a champion who "dances" around the battle with her ult, Fiora was intended by Riot Staff to be more of a teamfight oriented champion rather than an assassin. Sure because of her high AD stat we are given the opportunities to assassinate enemy team members who are off by themselves, but that's more likely an issue on their teams end. Assassin's are champions who can go in, get a kill, and come out with a rather generous amount of Hp, Fiora fits the idea of a teamfight champion more since after her ult is used she has no escapes and will either die or end up with very low HP. That being said the nerf this patch was way too overbearing.

thinking man1 votes

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What Is Smite1 votes

She is not in any sense OP, I talk with high Diamond - Challenger Tier Fiora mains and they all agree the nerfs were overbearing as a whole. On top of that the opposition from PBE should have been a red flag to Riot signaling that something they were about to do is wrong and pushed it back a bit for more testing before going to live. Sure I can admit that a well practiced Fiora can become a force to be reckoned with but the nerfs were just too much too soon.

thinking man1 votes

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What Is Smite1 votes

That's the thing, her teamfight has become substantially weak. The nerfs push her towards being an assassin, but idea of her kit is to be a teamfight oriented champion who can quickly and effectively take out the back line or soften up the front line for your carries. Fiora's ult is suppose to be a game changing ult that can turn around teamfights for the better of your team when you're behind in gold and items. I think that Riot could have done a better job of altering her ult for teamfights rather than just flat out butchering it.

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