Kallista

Lashrath·1/31/2015, 3:26:01 PM·8 votes·2,911 views

For those of you who havea PBE account - I wrote a piece about Kalista with a poll on the PBE forums I would appreciate if you read it and put on a vote or discussed it. The point is I would liekto see her black spear turned into an item that teh TARGET decides whether he wants to pick up or not. This week - with the free rotation - became a trollfest on the non-SR maps - the change I propose would allow Kalista to be played just as it is now BUT the target would have a word in whether he wants to be oathsworn or not. (which is how kalista' should work based on her lore too) Anyway thanks for your help/assistance.

This is NOt a ragepost nor a call for buff or nerf - just a gameplay change to make things fair.

35 Comments

Wheatloaf1/31/2015, 4:00:50 PM8 votes

I'm still really not clear on why it isn't a choice. When she was being released, Riot made it sound like it was supposed to be...

SpongebobIsLife1/31/2015, 4:15:56 PM2 votes

Well the problem with allowing this, is that it allows Kalista to get trolled as well. If no one decides to bond with her, she ultimately loses 2 abilities to her kit.

Tentacle Love1/31/2015, 5:57:41 PM2 votes

It's kinda odd that they mentioned over and over that Kalista is supposed to require the consent of the other person when previewing her and revealing her.

And I can't recall Riot personnel ever acknowledging that Kalista can deny the other player the opportunity to choose whether to become her oathsworn.

Players who AREN'T trolling can go buy a new black spear and correct a mistake, but players who ARE trolling can go buy a new spear, intentionally CC their own teammates over and over and make life hell for them.

I personally haven't run into problems with it myself. The worst I've seen Kalista do was go afk and force me to lane solo against 2 as Nautilus support. But I'm not 30 yet and don't plan on trying ranked until I have all the runes and masteries unlocked.

Leaf of the lake1/31/2015, 6:53:01 PM2 votes

Do you know why they made it not an option? Because no one fucking noticed the spear. Kalista kept going into games on PBE without an oathsworn, and having to bind in lane because people would ignore her spear when she tried to bind them. It ended up being a worse experience for everyone than the way it is currently. The 15s gate at fountain is a godsend for kalista, allowing her to instantly bind her support without any worry of getting ambushed by the enemy team. Unfortunately, at the start of games, people often aren't paying attention to the other champions yet. I've had countless supports say "you binded me already?" Every single one of those times, it would've been "rejected" simply because the support wasn't paying attention; if the oathsworn had to accept, it would ruin games for both of them, a lot more than the current system does. If you did let a player reject the pact, it would have to be opt-out, rather than opt-in, and even then it would have to make intuitive sense and be something you couldn't do by accident.

Inquizelus2/1/2015, 12:10:46 AM1 votes

Kalista is spelled with only one "L" you dumb prick.

Oleandervine2/1/2015, 6:58:36 PM1 votes

Kalista's Ult and her oathsworn stuff needs reworking so as not to castrate her and your team when you pick her. Her ult needs another non-friendly dependent ability.

Oleandervine2/1/2015, 10:19:06 PM1 votes

Her ult may be a game changer, but unless she's played in meta with organized parties, she's going to be a "troll" almost all the time due to the lack of easy communication during fights in the game. You don't have time to type out commands to your oathsworn, and you can't feasibly have voice chat with everyone in random matchups. She's just not easy to play cooperatively in any mode that isn't ranked if you're alone. For this reasoning, her ult needs rework. It's too codependent and this cripples her if the team is uncooperative. The passive on Sentry is OK because it doesn't actively change her kit that much, it just adds slight power which isn't missed too much if her oathsworn isn't engaging. However, the ult requiring a specific ally to know when and how to do things when you snatch them up so jarringly is problematic if they either botch the ult or don't cooperate. She needs something that is decent by itself, but stellar when her oathsworn can participate. Maybe something like Lissandra's Q; Kalista pitches a large spear that does things. Then, if it passes through her oathsworn, it splinters and flies farther. Something like that would be fun and encourage participation from your ally but not completely neuter Kalista without that ally around.