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Revert the jungle changes PLEASE

TehBromato·1/26/2017, 1:41:19 PM·100 votes·4,114 views

Can we please bring back the old season6/season5 jungle? I honestly don't understand what was wrong with the jungle before that Riot decided they had to go and

Think about it: When they made the new jungle changes, they compensated the low respawn times with more gold/xp. All this did was make normal tier junglers become slightly stronger, while S tier junglers became monsters.

After numerous nerfs to the jungle and NOT the champions, the previously S tier junglers are still somewhat strong, but now more in line, but now every other jungler might not even exist.

In the previous seasons, when you ganked as a jungler you had to USE YOUR BRAIN. What is the cost/benefit of ganking right now? I'm going to waste maybe 45 seconds of time where I could recall and farm 180g worth of camps? Now, you can clear your whole jungle and pretty much "waste" 30 seconds finding a gank because you have nothing else to do (besides maybe face check the enemy jgs camps).

I remember last season when a jungler would spend too much time ganking, they would be visibly underleveled against a jungler who made smart rotations and farmed and ganked simultaneously. Now, junglers who spend more time gank seem to be visibly higher leveled (because they still get all jg camps, and get lane and possibly kill xp as well).

Why did you guys change the jungle into this new mess with ridiculous raptors and splitting krugs for no apparent reason, which caused a TON of problems in pre-season but wasn't reverted. C'mon... what is even the point of pre-season then. Its like "we caused a problem in the jungle, instead of reverting it lets try and salvage this shit" while making the game more unfun.

64 Comments

Ionian Vulpix1/26/2017, 6:51:21 PM22 votes

Because f***ing the jungle is an annual tradition, just like breaking a class mid season and not needing them until said season is over.

Grokmir1/26/2017, 3:43:19 PM12 votes

They need to stop with this change for change's sake bullshit.

It ruins the game.

Very Hard Engage1/26/2017, 3:45:09 PM10 votes

id rather go back to easy peasy jungle where anyone could clear it and take no damage and you were free to gank at your leasiure.

DarkinPrime1/27/2017, 2:06:12 AM8 votes

Cricket chirps from Riot again. They are such fucking cowards when it comes to responding to real criticism.

Fegone1/26/2017, 5:01:52 PM7 votes

I have to contradict. Imho , jungle has never been better, DEFINITELY not in S6. I did like S5, but I like the changes for S7 too. Before you could jungle with anyone. Soraka Jungle, why not.

Now you have to actually thing which champion you can jungle with, AND you have to figure out which route you go, because not everyone can survive the bird nest camp.

Synnx71/26/2017, 9:51:03 PM7 votes

its because " change for the sake of change" and now lets nerf the jungle instead of OP junglers so they can remain op and the rest that struggled before, to fuck off

HollowMimic1/26/2017, 6:56:07 PM5 votes

My biggest issue is that certain champions (like Fiddlesticks) are getting pushed even more out of the jgl :(

Blåbæret1/26/2017, 9:05:26 PM3 votes

There was Nothing wrong with the old jungle: at least it provided some interesting aspects with buffs etc. The current jungle is not only more boring, it has also decreased the amount of viable junglers and is impossible to balance.

Mighty Mortein1/27/2017, 5:04:52 AM2 votes

Wasn't the jungle like, somewhat balanced in S6? And then pre-season showed its ugly head and now jungle is a void that only the best junglers can fill. I feel like AP junglers are gonna get screwed over some more.

DunkinNoobs1/26/2017, 9:50:52 PM2 votes

The season 6 jungle was a non-stop farmfest where all the best junglers could clear extremely quickly and win duels early game; i.e. Kindred, Graves, and Nidalee.

A FLUFFY BUNNY 11/26/2017, 10:05:05 PM2 votes

I honestly didn't notice the changes that much. I just run the JG the same way and ganks early when I hit lol 3. My JG cs is usually lowork as it is anyways. I spend more time hitting lanes and camping weak lanes that overextended even if they are getting raped. Take the easy camps between ganks. Some rhetoric weaker jg suffer for sure without sustain but the metas are always switching so there tines will come again eventually.

idontgiveabother1/26/2017, 11:28:49 PM2 votes

Mid/End of season 6 was so balanced from what I remember. Kinda sucks to see it all thrown out the window

Thistlemin1/27/2017, 3:02:06 AM2 votes

100% agree with original post. Also, the jungle camp timers leave jungling feeling very boring for the actual jungler. You're forced into taking a ganking champ or a champ that has the ability to do so.

Tradeoffs and balance are always superior to one-dimensional forced superior play style which creates a divide for all champs and players of superior and inferior styles. Every jungler must now attack lanes hard, rather than before it was optional based upon your junglers strengths/weaknesses.

Bad move. Riot clearly feels the need to break things just to fix them with the idea of keeping things fresh, even if the get worse or lose quality enjoyment in the short-term. As a customer it's a little off-putting. But I can understand the strategy to retain a player base and keep folks interested in competitive ladder climbing by avoiding stale play.

Troll for Trump1/27/2017, 4:00:39 AM2 votes

Plants did nothing significant, and just end up being RNG machines that cause balance issues.

Shynana1/26/2017, 1:59:47 PM2 votes

they will probably keep it and leave jg how it was back in s4 where the jungle monsters were hard to clear and do a lot of damage to you,

back then jg was easy to counter jg if i wanted vision smite wolfs if i wanted a gank smite raptors, if i wanted good cleae smite gromp, if i wanted to farm a lot smite krugs but really didnt see much of krugs helping me just cleared them just for gold.

now you cant have a free oracle anymore or free vision, if you said back then season you seen jgs that ganked a lot they were underleveled then he was pretty bad lol