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How do you build vs Ardent Censer supports?

Leetake··12 votes·2,575 views

How do you really build Ardent censer supports when you are Leona Nautilus Thresh Alistar Braum or just tank supports in general? Still go the usual item 3190 item 2045 item 3401 as core items and hope for the best? Going vs a KogMaw or Jinx with a Lulu Soraka Sona as their support makes them so hard to kill once item 3504 is completed. Not sure if I just had bad games or I'm not making enough "plays" or just having bad comps etc etc but some advice would be appreciated.

This is just becoming more and more depressing

38 Comments

Risk of Fate12 votes

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iPooUnicorns5 votes

Implying grievous wounds works vs shields.

SirTeemoMushroom5 votes

you run down as ap lux , and you r..e their souls Q-W-R

Leetake4 votes

Seems like a permanent solution :/

OyddAWqJ5r4 votes

No, go Bond of Stone and build Ardent Censor ftw.

Rainfall2 votes

the best build against ardent supports is escape- -> exit game-->yes

Buzzkillington02 votes

item 3190 item 3047 item 3193 item 2303 item 3194 item 3075 I'm not a supp main, but whenever i play alistar stoneplate+locket is a must. Thornmail is a decent choice to apply grievous wounds and adaptive helm will give you some MR and reduce the on hit magic damage. I usually try to gank mid whenever botlane is pushed so my midlaner can get strong enough to delete their soraka/adc (warn your adc when you do this or they will die solo 8/10 times). Bonus points if your jungler comes with you to tilt their mid extra hard.

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

Too expensive...

Buzzkillington01 votes

Try ancient coin line, it gives you more gold

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

Not worth without the shield, I play tank supps so I really want the shield; sometimes adc's position poorly.

DuskDaUmbreon2 votes

You can use any mage "support" against it. Grievous wounds is also highly effective. A quick, early Bramble Vest helps a lot, since it essentially negates Ardent's heal.

However, I suggest against item 3401. Take item 2303 instead, it lets you build tankier.

Linna Excel2 votes

Rush a item 3165?

Leetake1 votes

Its really tempting to try that on naut but... my team will flame me lol however.. I will give it a go on zyra or lux and see how it turns out

Done252 votes

Frozen Heart+Thornmail against healing supports like Nami/Soraka | Frozen Heart+Randuin's Omen against shield based supports like Lulu or Karma.

Leetake1 votes

Thats a very interesting theory there.. never looked at it that way lol

Jet Sett2 votes

item 3143 or item 3110 ? The only problem being how expensive it is to get these items.

Floupi2 votes

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Leetake1 votes

lolol no doubt

Leetake1 votes

Didn't realize it was time for the patch , seemed to helped a lot

SnakDatSmilesBak2 votes

Leaving this here to remind myself to post later. I'm gonna put some interesting things that I found worked against this meta.

Kazukes2 votes

Usually I see metaslaves and they fall apart at the lvl2/3 engage when they realize blindly picking janna/soraka blindly into champs than can walk past the minion wave and engage on them or their adc with no consequence isn't worth the ardent censor.

If they have 2 or more champs that benefit from lifesteal/censor I'd get a bramble vest. If the enemy adc is 0/7 that ardent censor ain't gonna do anything for them.

I Main Swain2 votes

correct me if im wrong but i believe theyre removing the heal on ardent in the next patch

Rathar Dashing2 votes

item 3076 item 3075

Leetake1 votes

Seems legit :)

Rathar Dashing1 votes

^w^

Athenes Lulu2 votes

A lot of stupid supports love to stick next to their ADCs, so a single good AoE capturing both of them should do. Most mages can easily outrange these enchanters and your abilities can't really be peeled from if you can abuse that range.

This probably won't directly answer your question, but it hopefully helps shit feel less bad.

Karn Bishop2 votes

Currently the only solution is to either risk it or abuse it yourself, and if you ever get an adc that cannot abuse ardent like say jhin due to his mechanics just dodge in champ select or lose.

The Bad Touch2 votes

Why you build an item 3504 of course.

Then you both have one.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123

Leetake1 votes

Only wish my adcs were smart enough to buy it :')

Martyrofsand1 votes

item 3069 item 2049 item 3107

First 3 items followed by...

item 3190 item 3800

Oh and Mobi boots in their, and how early I get them depends on how well I feel I can make plays roaming. If my enemy laner is something fairly aggressive, Sona/Lulu with a Cait/Draven/Trist/etc I tends to stay in lane a bit longer, but if not I'll get those boots pretty quickly and start roaming.

Leetake1 votes

I will give it a try

Martyrofsand2 votes

That depends on the champ, I'll generally do that on champs like Thresh/Alistar but if it's someone like Braum/Naut/Leona I would go Targons build path, most likely the sightstone combo and not worry about the shield item.

Leetake1 votes

Haha learnt that the hard way... should of checked back here more often <.>

Leetake1 votes

Funny enough the patch came out a few days after writing this (feelsbadman) but thanks everyone for the contribution :) saved me some extra brain CELLS :D

Quite some helpful stuff as well

Leaf on Bush1 votes

It's about how you play and less about your build. xD

Leetake1 votes

Lmao no

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