How do you build vs Ardent Censer supports?

Leetake·9/26/2017, 3:47:14 PM·12 votes·2,575 views

How do you really build Ardent censer supports when you are Leona Nautilus Thresh Alistar Braum or just tank supports in general? Still go the usual item 3190 item 2045 item 3401 as core items and hope for the best? Going vs a KogMaw or Jinx with a Lulu Soraka Sona as their support makes them so hard to kill once item 3504 is completed. Not sure if I just had bad games or I'm not making enough "plays" or just having bad comps etc etc but some advice would be appreciated.

This is just becoming more and more depressing

38 Comments

Risk of Fate9/26/2017, 4:05:46 PM12 votes

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SirTeemoMushroom9/26/2017, 3:49:39 PM5 votes

you run down as ap lux , and you r..e their souls Q-W-R

OyddAWqJ5r9/26/2017, 7:03:25 PM4 votes

No, go Bond of Stone and build Ardent Censor ftw.

DuskDaUmbreon9/26/2017, 6:34:57 PM2 votes

You can use any mage "support" against it. Grievous wounds is also highly effective. A quick, early Bramble Vest helps a lot, since it essentially negates Ardent's heal.

However, I suggest against item 3401. Take item 2303 instead, it lets you build tankier.

Linna Excel9/26/2017, 6:39:31 PM2 votes

Rush a item 3165?

Done259/26/2017, 7:02:06 PM2 votes

Frozen Heart+Thornmail against healing supports like Nami/Soraka | Frozen Heart+Randuin's Omen against shield based supports like Lulu or Karma.

Jet Sett9/26/2017, 7:10:25 PM2 votes

item 3143 or item 3110 ? The only problem being how expensive it is to get these items.

Floupi9/26/2017, 7:57:59 PM2 votes

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Kazukes9/26/2017, 8:28:12 PM2 votes

Usually I see metaslaves and they fall apart at the lvl2/3 engage when they realize blindly picking janna/soraka blindly into champs than can walk past the minion wave and engage on them or their adc with no consequence isn't worth the ardent censor.

If they have 2 or more champs that benefit from lifesteal/censor I'd get a bramble vest. If the enemy adc is 0/7 that ardent censor ain't gonna do anything for them.

SnakDatSmilesBak9/26/2017, 8:09:43 PM2 votes

Leaving this here to remind myself to post later. I'm gonna put some interesting things that I found worked against this meta.

Rainfall9/26/2017, 4:54:45 PM2 votes

the best build against ardent supports is escape- -> exit game-->yes

Buzzkillington09/26/2017, 5:34:21 PM2 votes

item 3190 item 3047 item 3193 item 2303 item 3194 item 3075 I'm not a supp main, but whenever i play alistar stoneplate+locket is a must. Thornmail is a decent choice to apply grievous wounds and adaptive helm will give you some MR and reduce the on hit magic damage. I usually try to gank mid whenever botlane is pushed so my midlaner can get strong enough to delete their soraka/adc (warn your adc when you do this or they will die solo 8/10 times). Bonus points if your jungler comes with you to tilt their mid extra hard.

Rathar Dashing9/26/2017, 11:57:53 PM2 votes

item 3076 item 3075

Athenes Lulu9/27/2017, 7:08:10 AM2 votes

A lot of stupid supports love to stick next to their ADCs, so a single good AoE capturing both of them should do. Most mages can easily outrange these enchanters and your abilities can't really be peeled from if you can abuse that range.

This probably won't directly answer your question, but it hopefully helps shit feel less bad.

Karn Bishop9/30/2017, 12:09:03 PM2 votes

Currently the only solution is to either risk it or abuse it yourself, and if you ever get an adc that cannot abuse ardent like say jhin due to his mechanics just dodge in champ select or lose.

The Bad Touch9/30/2017, 12:12:26 PM2 votes

Why you build an item 3504 of course.

Then you both have one.

I Main Swain9/26/2017, 10:45:52 PM2 votes

correct me if im wrong but i believe theyre removing the heal on ardent in the next patch

VelvetCrotch9/26/2017, 9:16:22 PM1 votes

item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123 item 3123

Leaf on Bush10/11/2017, 9:35:32 AM1 votes

It's about how you play and less about your build. xD

Martyrofsand9/26/2017, 11:20:36 PM1 votes

item 3069 item 2049 item 3107

First 3 items followed by...

item 3190 item 3800

Oh and Mobi boots in their, and how early I get them depends on how well I feel I can make plays roaming. If my enemy laner is something fairly aggressive, Sona/Lulu with a Cait/Draven/Trist/etc I tends to stay in lane a bit longer, but if not I'll get those boots pretty quickly and start roaming.

Leetake9/28/2017, 7:47:03 PM1 votes

Funny enough the patch came out a few days after writing this (feelsbadman) but thanks everyone for the contribution :) saved me some extra brain CELLS :D

Quite some helpful stuff as well