This Is Why People Complain About Dynamic Q

RoMz·6/17/2016, 4:13:32 AM·42 votes·2,064 views

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Trundle, Ezreal, & Nami were all premade (I know because same club tag, also keep in mind this is in Diamond so max trio q.) They out-roated my team and played an insane split push game that was only possible since they were on voice comm (pretty obvious since they were premade and the derisiveness of the calls). Heres were the fun part is to my knowledge there were ZERO PREMADES on my team (didn't see any matching club tags on my side). So now its 5 RANDOMS vs a TRIO how in the fuck is that fair? Why do they get to have more influence on the game than any of us solos? I had to try to explain to my team that we had to give an inhib and try to fight the 4v5 but they wouldn't budge they walk between mid and top in the end losing both inhibs without getting anything done. I tried my best to carry that game I really did but in the end 1 < 3.

24 Comments

Blanchimont6/17/2016, 5:14:59 AM23 votes

It's not fair. This is a massive problem with Dynamic Queue and premades. The quality of teamwork in a premade is much higher and honestly, I don't think it can ever be fair when it comes to playing with larger groups. A group that has played together for a long time will have a massive advantage that cannot be measured by MMR. Sadly, they still do not let you opt out of being matched with premades.

MuyAstuto6/17/2016, 2:48:06 PM6 votes

High elo is a trainwreck now. I recommend smurfing only this season.

Xenos111116/17/2016, 10:13:11 AM5 votes

I don't care about the fairness of DQ, although it probably is fucked sometimes yeah. But let's face it solo queue also had problems in that regard; it's always going to be partly based on luck.

I just hate Dynamic Queue as a concept. I don't think it should exist in a competitive environment, which is what ranked is supposed to be (at least past Gold). Trying to merge Ranked 5s and Solo Queue into one was just a recipe for disaster right from the start.

Feathermane6/17/2016, 10:27:37 AM4 votes

Dead on. Losing a game is precisely why 99% of people complain about dynamic q.

Linna Excel6/17/2016, 6:25:13 PM3 votes

I feel like the only way dynamic queue can be made to work is if there are an equal amount of premades on both sides.

DarkRitual6/17/2016, 5:16:42 PM3 votes

You got out-rotated and splitpushed by a Trundle with Zz'rot, and Nami with Zz'rot and Banner? Okay. Sure, communication helps, but it sounds more like they played their teamcomp well in general, and you just didn't have the proper teamcomp to handle it.

macromite6/17/2016, 2:45:37 PM2 votes

club names are only usable to see if there is, not if there isn't. for all you know there was a tri with you as well, but with different club tags.

TheAzeban6/17/2016, 5:42:34 AM2 votes

It is not always a good thing. Last few games ive been going solo i get into 3 group teams.. I am in silver. I take ranked seriously, while yes i understand im not amazing i am trying to get better and i am climbing slowly. It is just a hindrance when your 3 group on your team does not use voice comms and is just on to troll. Meanwhile since we have a 3 group, the other team has a 4 group all in comms. Seems fair right?

I just want to opt out of playing with groups. It makes me sick playing with people who are intentionally feeding and griefing because they have friends in the game with them.

last game i had a 3 group on my team. They ran around all game literally running into 5 of the enemy to fight them, no matter what anyone said. They would flash walls for "fun" and just general greifing. The game before that, the dude said they were premade. Thresh goes 1/16 bot lane and they are just laughing.

It is so sad. Makes me bored of ranked. It seems 2/3 games go something like what i described. I wish they would change how you got lp. Make each game worth 25 lp and you get points for doing certain things. You get a good champ grade you get points, you lose game you lose points. idk if that would work i just know something needs to change.

Weiner the Pooh6/17/2016, 9:10:47 PM1 votes

or you get it where your 4 man team is an average 3 ranks lower than the enemy, and youre the only one at the same level as your opponents.

The Yetii Rider6/17/2016, 5:41:05 PM1 votes

They are allowed to do this because everyone can do this. Riot's goal is to encourage all players to premade. Just hop on with a guy who played well last game, get on Curse Voice and climb.

Kings Avatar6/17/2016, 6:13:26 PM1 votes

so your saying that 1 more person then before just fucks your shit up and you cant do anything the world is ending cause holy shit 1 more person is on comms holy fuck. what about when people put curse tags in chat and got other people in coms where you freaking out then when they had comms. oh right no you wernt you just want something to complain about.

The Sword Saint6/17/2016, 6:30:24 PM1 votes

You can't know that your teamates weren't premade for sure. You're not forced to have the same club tag to premade (maybe you should be though).

chipndip16/17/2016, 7:22:00 PM1 votes

You don't have to remove names from your match history. People can literally just go to your match history...

Or am I mistaken? =/

Battlecast Sona6/17/2016, 7:51:43 PM1 votes

I think it's funny that the elephant in the room is this:

DQ would work perfectly if the League community could actually voice comm with each other without raging like crazy. If you could invite the 4 other randoms (or even 2-3 of the randoms) into a curse voice client it already increases your effectiveness as a team, even without any practice, by a huge amount. But Riot has been loathe to add it due to the added toxicity and difficulty of management that that creates, and any attempt at creating an outside client has fallen flat (curse voice comes to mind as something that lasted for all of 10 seconds as a pick-up voice comm).

The League community isn't compatible with DQ, but I don't actually think it has a thing to do with DQ. It has more to do with the fact that League players will probably never start making attempts to voice comm without Riot adding it, and when they do add it so many people will probably be toxic so as to make the system useless. But it's just hilarious to me to watch these players complain to Riot about DQ when the problem is a community that refuses to communicate with their team, with some solo players taking it as far as never typing in game at all.