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@Riot @Meddler Pls DON'T rework Azir

chriserit·10/22/2015, 8:07:39 PM·47 votes·4,692 views

Pls don't rework him. At least not because he is hard to play.

Not all the champion in the game are supposed to be easy to play Azir is an hard champion as well as LeeSin Lulu Syndra and many others. He is supposed to be hard. Why you have the need to lower his skillcap? Is that really needed? even if he need a rework he really need it first of Shaco Singed Volibear Warwick Urgot Mordekaiser DrMundoSwain Jax and all the other outdated champs?

I spended an entire year playing Azir. I played him Top Lane, Jungle, Support, Adc even as a Tank ...and now I have to see him reworked just because he is too hard to play? LeeSin players learned insec, ward hop and everything else. The same can happen with Azir. Hard champions are needed into league. Even if Azir would not be available for those who didn't played him a lot is that a real problem? with 130+ champions in the game not all of them must be accessible to inexperienced players.

If you need it nerf him but pls don't go ahead with a rework. You already upset me with Cassiopeia rework and Veigar rework (my 2 old mains). This would be the kill shot.

here there is what they said for those who don't know: Speaking about Cassio:

How that work will be prioritized hasn't been determined yet. There are a number of other projects it'd have to be traded off against on either the Live Gameplay (balance) team or the Champion Update (reworks) team (projects like Ryze, Azir, Taric, Yorick etc).

and

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Azir's kit is sufficiently difficult to learn that it doesn't seem to currently be possible to put him in a spot where he's sufficiently balanced for experienced players without being extremely inaccessible to people unfamiliar with him. Learning curve and skill ceiling are great of course, in this case Azir's skill floor's too punishing though. Current intent is to look at ways to make him somewhat more accessible, with if needs be, some nerfs to his top end if those changes buff him there too.

Edit: don't focus on who I wrote to be an hard champs I could have wrote other 20 champs instead of them. The point is one: He is being reworked because he is too hard to play.

76 Comments

Erdamon10/22/2015, 9:40:57 PM15 votes

How is Lulu hard?

Aezanthya10/22/2015, 9:39:59 PM7 votes

They plan on reworking Azir ? wut ?

anyway lulu, lee and syndra are not hard to play. Especially not lee and lulu (wtf ?)

Handin Out Naps10/23/2015, 4:49:46 AM6 votes

Sadly Azir will always be a problem child with his current kit. The top percent of players will make his kit impossible to beat, and in order to nerf him in extremely high elo they ruin him for every other elo. His kit is just impossible to balance and he needs a rework, makes perfect sense to me.

okino10/23/2015, 6:04:57 PM3 votes

Why would they rework him? He seems solid and I agree, he seems to be someone with a higher skill cap than other champions. I've never played him but I feel like he doesn't seem like a champion who is in any need of a rework any time soon. It's only been close to a year since he's been released, and it would unfair to other champions who might require reworks. It's also a bit too early IMO. This seems like an unnecessary move.

warpenguin55510/23/2015, 4:30:35 PM3 votes

Reworking Azir to make him easier to play would be a huge slap in the face for all of us who took the time to learn him.

Face The Lewd10/22/2015, 9:19:10 PM3 votes

I don't think Azir should be reworked because of his skill curve But I do think his current kit needs some tweaking to add more counterplay to soldiers, preferably if we could destroy them instead of being forced away from the zone they control because they're indestructable unites

And he really shouldn't be able to clear wards with them, the hell are you supposed to do to the Azir sitting 1k units away from a ward while clearing it?

1 800 MID LANE10/23/2015, 5:17:11 AM2 votes

Oh God...

PLEASE tell me that they aren't/weren't thinking about it. PLEEEEAAAAASE!

ElegantDoge10/23/2015, 9:02:14 AM2 votes

I completely agree.He's a great champion and it feels so good to play him when you mastered him. He's trully the type of champ where you can say "damn,this guy is SO good on this champion,i wish i could be as good as him !" And all of this without being completely stupid or broken.Please don't rework him until he really needs to.

Serpents Embrace10/22/2015, 9:16:51 PM2 votes

i completely agree... i really want some champs that are hard to master or even get into.

Deadly Quills10/22/2015, 9:19:03 PM2 votes

I made post like this as well. I'm really happy that there are other people who agree with me.

Chuck Charles10/22/2015, 9:36:23 PM2 votes

I am someone who has poured a lot of time into Azir and quite frankly riot is right. His skill curve may just be the highest in the game. Those new to him perform so badly on him and those who are masters of him can dominate.

It is not similar to lee sin who even silver and bronze noon can make general use of his kit even without ward jumping and insecs

Matezoide10/23/2015, 1:54:28 AM2 votes

Why the fuck would they rework Azir

Hell, Singed is the most unique champion in this game. Why the fuck does everyone want to rework him?

ChaosThief10/23/2015, 2:06:58 AM2 votes

Did you really include Mordekaiser, the Master of Metal Iron Revenant?

He just got reworked.

Hayaishi210/23/2015, 3:25:55 AM2 votes

Only reason to rework Azir would be the lack of counterplay his kit offers. Apart from that, they can easily decrease his skillceiling/skillcap without reworking him.

shteeeb10/24/2015, 9:43:17 AM2 votes

If Azir has to be reworked because he is OP when balanced for less skilled players, why the fuck is Riven's animation cancelling allowed to exist? A Riven with animation cancelling is completely different than a Riven who can't animation cancel. And the dumbest part of that is there is literally no way to even know that animation cancelling is even a thing, or even how to do it. I've been playing since before S1 and have been diamond 3 seasons in a row and I still have no idea how to do it good. And for that reason I'll never play Riven.

Zone of Endless5/21/2016, 5:01:02 PM2 votes

I hate the direction Riot is taking the game by trying to make it as casual as possible. Oh warding is too hard? Let me remove green wards from shop. Champion too hard to play? Let rework it so it's a lot easier to play. Ranked too competitive? Let make it so you can premade in ranked. Jungle timer on buff camps.

The Taco Kat10/22/2015, 11:32:32 PM1 votes

People need to realize that playing Azir is to auto people. That's right... JUST AUTO. You don't need be play like you are in the LCS and make "big plays" by ulting the enemy into your team. Your damage is high for poke, so just poke. It's just people being ignorant is the problem.

Mystic Falco1/1/2017, 12:38:52 AM1 votes

They are changing Azir because his kit at it's current state can't be balanced. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/5GoFFycP-regarding-the-azir-rework

Roxxe5/21/2016, 4:58:13 PM1 votes

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Noctius2810/23/2015, 10:12:22 AM1 votes

Go ahead and rework him, give him some more counterplay and make him easier to use, most normal people don't have an entire month to do nothing but play a single champion to do fairly well with him/her Every champions should be available for play for everyone after spending the RP/IP And when I say play I mean play, not feed You want to have a difficult time? You want a challenge? Go play rank then, champs shouldn't be gated of by difficulty to play Not play against

Don't get me wrong I like the Idea of Azir, I just think the execution is flawed If he put a soldier you can't do anything for as long as that soldier lasts, and when he fades another one is available That is an area you simply can't enter unless you want to die Gangplanks barrels do the same but you can destroy them and get money Dongers turrets do the same but you can destroy them and get money Skarners crystals do the same but you can capture them and get money

Azirs soldier have no counters

Kapppaccino10/23/2015, 5:30:16 AM1 votes

Can someone fill me in as to why azir Is broken?