This guy has 90% win rate on fizz in 50 games

spombjop·Jun 6, 2016·6 votes·2,310 views

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/66726795#ranked-stats

and then u tell me that fizz is not op

67 Comments

stealthfox94Jun 6, 20166 votes

I'm sure there's a guy somewhere who has a 90% win rate on Urgot. Pointing out one guy who has a really good win rate on a certain champion doesn't mean jack shit.

EndlessSorcererJun 6, 20166 votes

Considering they have multiple games with what appears to be intentional feeding (multiple Rammus games with <5 kills, >30 deaths and low assists) and many stomps in their match history, I would not be surprised if they were a higher-ELO smurf trolling around in Bronze 4 for lulz (and dodging promotion series to stay there).

DeathBurstJun 7, 20161 votes

Btw, why does this kind of people feel forced to feed and ruin someone game? I mean, if you just don't want to get promoted, you can just queue dodge, and it counts as a loss for your promo series, and the 5 min wait is still faster than feeding a whole game for 20 mins.

spombjopJun 7, 20161 votes

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Btw, why does this kind of people feel forced to feed and ruin someone game? I mean, if you just don't want to get promoted, you can just queue dodge, and it counts as a loss for your promo series, and the 5 min wait is still faster than feeding a whole game for 20 mins.

Not all bad games are result of intentional feeding. He probalby had just some bad games with Rammus.

DeathBurstJun 7, 20161 votes

Don't be ridiculous... This guy has an 80% winrate over 120 games and over 8 different champions, then he has a dozen of champs he played only once or twice, and then he has Rammus and Soraka where he has a 10% winrate over 100 games. He has 76 games on Rammus alone. He's obviously using Rammus and Soraka on purpose to lose. You don't go from 80% winrate on a variety of champs to 10% on just 2 champs.

KVbqbFsC8eJun 6, 20165 votes

Thats just some douchebag smurfing in Bronze 5, and then intentionally feeding so he doesn't get promoted.

stealthfox94Jun 6, 20162 votes

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Thats just some douchebag smurfing in Bronze 5, and then intentionally feeding so he doesn't get promoted.

Yeah look at his terrible Rammus history. A normally player wouldn't have that kind of inconsistency.

DeathBurstJun 7, 20161 votes

KVbqbFsC8eJun 7, 20161 votes

Probably because they can get away with it. It shows how ineffective Riots system is when it comes to punishing trolls/feeders.

Mecha MaIphiteJun 6, 20164 votes

He could probably play AD Gragas at that elo and maintain a 90% win rate.

Void NargacugaJun 6, 20164 votes

They are Bronze 4...

spombjopJun 6, 20161 votes

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They are Bronze 4...

Who cares? Respect all elos.

Void NargacugaJun 6, 20164 votes

The problem is: Most players in that elo don't really have a good amount of mechanical skill or enough game knowledge. And after checking their match history, I agree with EndlessSorcerer's conclusion.

AlwaysByMySideJun 6, 20161 votes

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Who cares? Respect all elos.

Why?

Only bad players are in bronze 4.

spombjopJun 6, 20161 votes

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Why?

Only bad players are in bronze 4.

some of these players are stuck in elo hell, not all of them are bad

VvVVvVJun 6, 20161 votes

This is true........I am bronze 3....i was duoing with a Silver yesterday.......... i looked back at the matches and every game all on other team was Silver 3 or higher and i held my own ...we won every game we payed together.

To some Silver might not be shyt either but to Bronzies reaching Silver is like climbing mount everest and the feel you get when you reach the top.

CoronaGulpJun 6, 20161 votes

What he's trying to say is that your evidence is biased and insufficient.

Kei143Jun 6, 20164 votes

oh .. you again ?

the one trying to spread propaganda that ELO hell exists

spombjopJun 6, 20161 votes

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oh .. you again ?

the one trying to spread propaganda that ELO hell exists

it does. it's proven mathematically. everyone who is saying opposite is just lying to you.

CerealBoxOfDoomJun 6, 20163 votes

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it does. it's proven mathematically. everyone who is saying opposite is just lying to you.

it hasn't been proven.

It probably does exist but I doubt this is very relevant to your thread

spombjopJun 6, 20161 votes

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it hasn't been proven.

It probably does exist but I doubt this is very relevant to your thread

ELO HELL DOES EXIST.

Guy Fox TeemoJun 6, 20163 votes

IT was actually proven mathematically WRONG. Btw. So theres 10 people in a game , 5 people on each side Lets say your not a troll, dont suck, and are better then everyone else in that ELO right? Ok so now there is only 4 people on your team can suck, troll, w/e, while on the ENEMY team there is 5. Assuming you don't suck or aren't a troll, you have 4 possible people on your team who can troll while the enemy team has 5.

So no ELO hell does not exist, as you will always have a higher chance, assuming you dont suck at the game like everyone else in your ELO :D.

SasogwaJun 6, 20163 votes

Do you make these threads on purpose? This guy is FEEDING INTENTIONALLY to get to a low enough MMR to roflstomp with Fizz. In bronze 4, any non-retard would have similar scores.

GenericGirlNameJun 6, 20161 votes

i have a 90% rate with Bard if i dont troll

CoronaGulpJun 6, 20161 votes

I have a 100% win rate with Bard if I win my first game!

spombjopJun 6, 20161 votes

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I have a 100% win rate with Bard if I win my first game!

This guy has 100% win rate with fizz in S5 in 13 games. try win 13 games in a row as bard and i'll believe that he is op

CoronaGulpJun 6, 20163 votes

But why would you believe that, if 100% win rate with a champion in 13 games isn't related to how OP a champion is????

The logic behind that is fallacious.

Hasty Generalization: This is a conclusion based on insufficient or biased evidence. In other words, you are rushing to a conclusion before you have all the relevant facts.

https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/659/03/

GenericGirlNameJun 6, 20162 votes

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I have a 100% win rate with Bard if I win my first game!

Rito this man has 100% win with brad pwes nerf!

TheLastShadow45Jun 6, 20161 votes

Obviously a smurf playing fizz in low Elo.

BestTristMyHausJun 6, 20161 votes

If you want better proof of your point, the guy is 11 - 65 with Rammus (obviously trolling). But what makes it awesome? Check his match history, 1 week ago he went Rammus in 4 straight games and got 0 kills, 30+ death in EVERY GAME. he went 1 - 3 in those four games, notably the ONLY game he won... there was a Fizz on his team. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

CerealBoxOfDoomJun 6, 20161 votes

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If you want better proof of your point, the guy is 11 - 65 with Rammus (obviously trolling). But what makes it awesome? Check his match history, 1 week ago he went Rammus in 4 straight games and got 0 kills, 30+ death in EVERY GAME. he went 1 - 3 in those four games, notably the ONLY game he won... there was a Fizz on his team. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

so fizz counters trolls, or at least ones without big clubs

spombjopJun 7, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mahou Girl Mami,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Kigrna1,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2016-06-06T21:57:43.733+0000)

If you want better proof of your point, the guy is 11 - 65 with Rammus (obviously trolling). But what makes it awesome? Check his match history, 1 week ago he went Rammus in 4 straight games and got 0 kills, 30+ death in EVERY GAME. he went 1 - 3 in those four games, notably the ONLY game he won... there was a Fizz on his team. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

yeah imagine that.[slayer-jinx-catface]

TragicTricksJun 7, 20161 votes

People do good with champion they know how to play.

Just because hes good with that 1 champion doesnt mean that champ is "Op"

spombjopJun 7, 20161 votes

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People do good with champion they know how to play.

Just because hes good with that 1 champion doesnt mean that champ is "Op"

then why can't someone do that with bard

LauchmelderJun 7, 20161 votes

A full AP Bard can easily solocarry a game.

FioraWillCarryJun 7, 20161 votes

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/63675988#ranked-stats

Please....This one has 100% win rate on multiple ADCs. Has nothing to do with the champion. They have god-like skills. Such people do exist, rare but they exist.

spombjopJun 7, 20161 votes

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http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/63675988#ranked-stats

Please....This one has 100% win rate on multiple ADCs. Has nothing to do with the champion. They have god-like skills. Such people do exist, rare but they exist.

this is a smurf dude.

FioraWillCarryJun 7, 20162 votes

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this is a smurf dude.

I know. Probably Platinum. It takes near god like skill to reach that elo anyhow. The only reason I even know of him was because he was in a Bronze V game recently on the enemy team. And I swear to you, he could have carried even if it was 3v5. He was that fuckin good. He carried super hard with Sivir, something I have NEVER seen any Bronze do. If you were against him in that game, you would have said Sivir was broken too. Point is, its not the champ, its the player. Even after watching several of his games, I still have no fuckin clue how this guy carries Bronze so easily. They just know something the rest of us don't. I couldn't dream of doing that with Fizz, broken as you might think he is.

spombjopJun 7, 20161 votes

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I know. Probably Platinum. It takes near god like skill to reach that elo anyhow. The only reason I even know of him was because he was in a Bronze V game recently on the enemy team. And I swear to you, he could have carried even if it was 3v5. He was that fuckin good. He carried super hard with Sivir, something I have NEVER seen any Bronze do. If you were against him in that game, you would have said Sivir was broken too. Point is, its not the champ, its the player. Even after watching several of his games, I still have no fuckin clue how this guy carries Bronze so easily. They just know something the rest of us don't. I couldn't dream of doing that with Fizz, broken as you might think he is.

Skill to reach plat? Kidding me right?

FioraWillCarryJun 7, 20161 votes

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Skill to reach plat? Kidding me right?

It takes every thing I have just to reach Bronze 3 and I'm very open to learning. Unlike your typical Bronzie, I know its not because this champ or that champ is broken or because of feeding team mates, its my own lack of skill. I'm aware that good csing, warding, map awareness etc are necessary to climb and I try to improve on them and I have improved quite a bit, yet even so, my best effort can only reach as far as B3 thus far. If B3 is so hard to get, I can only imagine the insane skills it takes to get Plat....fuck it, even Gold.

Plats, Golds, Diamonds etc might be able to get there easily but I think they really forget how hard it was before they reached such levels of skill.

Bobloser3555Jun 7, 20161 votes

{quoted} If B3 is so hard to get, I can only imagine the insane ~~skills~~ knowledge it takes to get Plat....fuck it, even Gold.

fixed it for you

FioraWillCarryJun 7, 20161 votes

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If B3 is so hard to get, I can only imagine the insane ~~skills~~ knowledge it takes to get Plat....fuck it, even Gold.

fixed it for you

Knowledge ? Nah. I mean its been said a billion times already all over the place. Ward, CS, don't die often yadda yadda yadda. It's pretty common knowledge the things high elo players do. It's the execution that's the problem.

I was watching a couple games of the same smurf I posted who plays ADC and he just has this ability to get fed in lane at will in Bronze. His combos were so perfect and smooth. He has this ability to just kill you like that. That takes skill. I mean he doesn't know anything I don't about Lucian yet he can play him sooo much better than I ever could. I can't go 5-0 in 10 minutes at will in Bronze playing Lucian but he could. What could he possible know that I don't. It seems its just his raw mechanical ability.

BlåbæretJun 7, 20161 votes

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Knowledge ? Nah. I mean its been said a billion times already all over the place. Ward, CS, don't die often yadda yadda yadda. It's pretty common knowledge the things high elo players do. It's the execution that's the problem.

I was watching a couple games of the same smurf I posted who plays ADC and he just has this ability to get fed in lane at will in Bronze. His combos were so perfect and smooth. He has this ability to just kill you like that. That takes skill. I mean he doesn't know anything I don't about Lucian yet he can play him sooo much better than I ever could. I can't go 5-0 in 10 minutes at will in Bronze playing Lucian but he could. What could he possible know that I don't. It seems its just his raw mechanical ability.

Most likely a scripter.

FioraWillCarryJun 8, 20161 votes

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Most likely a scripter.

What's that mean ?

Bobloser3555Jun 7, 20161 votes

It is knowledge! if you just learned about the game and how far you can go with your champs and what you can do with them and know where to be at the right time how to react when you get ganked, know the cooldowns of champion abilities, know when to do drake and when not, know when to freeze lane or when to push, have map awareness, know the range of champion abilities, know if you can tower dive or when they can dive you, have a feel for how much damage you can dish out and how much you can take and if you can 1v1 that guy or not, remember the enemy cooldowns, know when to try to take tower down or take baron instead, know the best places to ward, know which items are best on your champ in which situation, know how to counter pick and how to play if you are against your counter, react to your enemies builds with the right items, know how to peel, how to engage, how to position, know if you need to flash to survive or if you can safe it etc... then I am sure you could be plat without even improving your mechanical skills.

This game does not take a whole lot of skill in that sense.

Bobloser3555Jun 7, 20161 votes

And how do you know yours isnt? anyways I do agree that Fizz is op and so does Riot so im not sure what your point is.

spombjopJun 7, 20161 votes

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And how do you know yours isnt? anyways I do agree that Fizz is op and so does Riot so im not sure what your point is.

because he lost too many games with rammus and soraka, smurf woun't lose that much games

Bobloser3555Jun 7, 20161 votes

maybe, or he might have used those games to demote. also 50 games is not that much, wait till he has 100 and his winrate should drop unless he really is a smurf.

spombjopJun 7, 20161 votes

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maybe, or he might have used those games to demote. also 50 games is not that much, wait till he has 100 and his winrate should drop unless he really is a smurf.

50 games isn't that much? having 90% win rate in 50 fucking games is much. 50 games is like 25 hours of playing. That is like finishing any Call of duty game for like 6 times in a row.

Bobloser3555Jun 7, 20161 votes

yes its much but maybe he got lucky or maybe he is a smurf is all im saying