Can we get an indication of exactly when we'll get demoted?

Extrasolar··10 votes·781 views

There's been times in ranked where I'm at 0 LP, and lose a few games, but stay at 0. After three games or so lost at 0, I get terrified that if I lose the next game, I'll get demoted. Is the amount of games you need to lose to get demoted when you're at 0 LP arbitrary? Or is it set? How do they determine that?

Just having a "Go down in rank with a loss" indication when you're in champion select or something would fix this.

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Firefox5093 votes

It's entirely based on your MMR which riot hides from you. When your MMR drops down to the tier below you and you're at 0 lp is when you get demoted. You if your MMR is high for your rank you could still loose 5 games in a row but as long as your MMR isn't in the division below you, you wont get demoted.

Same can be said for climbing but LP gains/losses are influenced on your MMR so it does make it difficult to climb until your raise your MMR.

As for an indicator that's not possible even by 3rd party sources since riot hides your MMR. Best you can do is use say op.gg's mmr estimator and if it says you're below your division be careful.

Extrasolar1 votes

Oh, I see. I remember hearing something about MMR before, but couldn't remember exactly what it was. Thanks for this.

If you have high MMR, you gain a lot when you win, but lose less with you lose, right? Mine seems weird, considering I gain about 20 - 22 LP per win, but lose about 15 - 18 per loss (currently in B1). Guess that means my MMR is exactly in my division? I don't know.

Just wish Riot let us see our MMR, at the very least.

Souly Thresh1 votes

PLEASE!

VvVVvV1 votes

From what i have experienced is

  1. If im on a losing streak and go down to 0 LP....then after my 2nd loss with 0 LP i get demoted.

but

  1. Lets say i just got promoted........I start next rank at 0LP.......if I do not win a game I will not get demoted until my 3rd loss at 0LP on the new rank.

But here is my question. What will getting a indication do? It shouldnt make you play any different because you are supposed to be playing to win each game. Im goign to play every game just as hard and to my best ability wether im told i will be demoted or not with next loss.

Bu tthat is a change that doesnt really effect anything so i guess it wouldnt hurt to know it..........

But then again it could affect different people differently. Some people who know their next loss will demote them might play better and other who know their next loss will demote them might play worse because they will be trying to hard and make stupid mistakes.

Extrasolar1 votes

But here is my question. What will getting a indication do? It shouldnt make you play any different because you are supposed to be playing to win each game

It's more of a matter of convenience then anything. I'm just curious; there are times when I'm on a losing streak in ranked (saying like 3 or 4 games lost), and play again, hoping to win. If I had the indication that I'd go down in rank with a loss, I'd be more likely to take a break and try again some other time. Without it, it's totally random.

ANTI7EC1 votes

That would be preety cool but at least we got days for demotion :/ but its a bit harder to calculate other stats I think :o

VvVVvV2 votes

Days? You must be high elo? We bronzies dont get that luxury lol We get demoted asap lol

ANTI7EC1 votes

Damn I forgot.. I think I am already platinum .. so I won't demote anymore didn't play for like 3months :D just working on youtube atm so I shouldn't be afraid as well for now :D but I WAS sitting around diamond 4 without problems tho

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