Is riot ever going to adress how unfair udyr actually is right now?

6ballsyndra·Apr 22, 2018·2 votes·1,239 views

This isnt a one off thing that caused me to create this post. Udyr is in a position right now where no matter how far behind you are you can still completely control games. Split push if you're that far behind because you can still 1v1 any champion. You cant kite him unless hes completely out of mana which with how season 8's been going so far you know thats not going to happen any time soon.

Last match specifically, was going tankier on kayn and a tank udyr with tri force tiamate flash auto'd me for 700 damage. Why is this allowed? All around he has way too much utility even if behind and way too much snowballing if he gets ahead. I have in all my years playing league, seen an udyr do bad maybe once or twice due to being first time and even then they just split push

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MorganFreemanBotApr 22, 20182 votes

I looked at your last game.

When it closed out Udyr had a rock solid 5,000 gold lead on you. Additionally, your idea of going "tanky" on Kayn was.. Spirit Visage. You technically had death's dance as well, but that's a damage redistribution rather than mitigation. You didn't even have Tabi.

Given Udyr's items: Getting smacked for 700 damage considering he had tri force and Tiamat, and probably maxed Q first, isn't exactly ground breaking. Auto + active could pretty predictably deal that damage, and isn't in the realm of broken. This specific case looks like mostly just like udyr getting insanely ahead and you building to counter AP.

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I do hope you realize triforce gives hp, He also never finished tiamate. He build tabi's and frozen heart and was working towards frozen mallet. Claim what you will but when the udyr has 150 armor and 4k health im going to classify it as a tank

150 armor is basically most melee champs with a single armor item and Triforce doesn't exactly give tank levels of bonus hp. Udyr was building bruiser-ish but not going anything resembling full tank.

6ballsyndraApr 22, 20181 votes

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I looked at your last game.

When it closed out Udyr had a rock solid 5,000 gold lead on you. Additionally, your idea of going "tanky" on Kayn was.. Spirit Visage. You technically had death's dance as well, but that's a damage redistribution rather than mitigation. You didn't even have Tabi.

Given Udyr's items: Getting smacked for 700 damage considering he had tri force and Tiamat, and probably maxed Q first, isn't exactly ground breaking. Auto + active could pretty predictably deal that damage, and isn't in the realm of broken. This specific case looks like mostly just like udyr getting insanely ahead and you building to counter AP.

I understand he had a gold lead. Udyr solo carried the match for them. My point is, regardless of a gold lead if he builds tankier he should not be dealing 700 damage with a single auto attack that also stuns. It would be different if he was building actual damage. Yes deaths dance reduces incoming damage by 30% and converts it to burn damage over time. I was rhast and he could kill me in under 2 seconds regardless of my life steal. As stated, its not the first game i've had this problem with udyr. He continues to out perform other junglers at a 53% winrate while dealing assasin level damage while keeping up with warwick tank wise

6ballsyndraApr 22, 20181 votes

{quoted}

I looked at your last game.

When it closed out Udyr had a rock solid 5,000 gold lead on you. Additionally, your idea of going "tanky" on Kayn was.. Spirit Visage. You technically had death's dance as well, but that's a damage redistribution rather than mitigation. You didn't even have Tabi.

Given Udyr's items: Getting smacked for 700 damage considering he had tri force and Tiamat, and probably maxed Q first, isn't exactly ground breaking. Auto + active could pretty predictably deal that damage, and isn't in the realm of broken. This specific case looks like mostly just like udyr getting insanely ahead and you building to counter AP.

150 armor is basically most melee champs with a single armor item and Triforce doesn't exactly give tank levels of bonus hp. Udyr was building bruiser-ish but not going anything resembling full tank.

150 bonus armor, didnt clarify that enough. 150+ whatever his natural armor was. jaurums fist + frozen heart + tabi

archerno1Apr 22, 20181 votes

If he had Triforce and Tiamat he wasnt tank...

6ballsyndraApr 22, 20181 votes

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If he had Triforce and Tiamat he wasnt tank...

I do hope you realize triforce gives hp, He also never finished tiamate. He build tabi's and frozen heart and was working towards frozen mallet. Claim what you will but when the udyr has 150 armor and 4k health im going to classify it as a tank

MrHaZeYoApr 22, 20181 votes

Ya that's not a tank, that's a bruiser.

VenompawApr 22, 20181 votes

Tanks are useless in this game.

MorganFreemanBotApr 22, 20181 votes

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Tanks are useless in this game.

Bro you must be new here.

Before Conquerer released we'd apparently been in a multi-year tank meta, where tanks were oppressively strangling the diversity out of every single role. At least that's what the majority of Boards were going on about.

archerno1Apr 22, 20181 votes

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