Why did supports stop buying wards?

EmperorFrostmare··3 votes·1,130 views

I've noticed this reoccurring situation, where in most games i play, the support doesn't buy sightstone. I mean, I am in bronze but I have noticed it in a lot of normals too. Is this some kinda new tactic or new meta, 'cause I honestly don't get it.

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archerno13 votes

Well its Bronze, when did supports ever buy wards in Bronze?

EmperorFrostmare2 votes

I do xD

SciFi Scrivener3 votes

I'm a bronze Brand support main. 90% of my games I rush sight stone. The health helps keep me alive during lane phase, and I like to upgrade my gold supp item item 2301 as quick as possible to increase my gold production.

My only exceptions is when the ADC is a fail and I need mobility (I rush boots) or I grab a quick item 3107 so I can provide utility heal to the rest of the team (this is rare).

Vision is the number two job of support, and one of the easiest ways to impact the game. I'm astounded how many times I hit my item 3364 in prime ward spots and find the enemy has no wards.

Ethan Allen2 votes

Lets be honest here. Most of these people are autofilled to support and don't know what they are doing at all.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i guess its true then no other laners in the game know how to ward then.

Ethan Allen1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=26TPMwvz,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-07-24T19:30:47.202+0000)

i guess its true then no other laners in the game know how to ward then.

The supports still likely ward with their trinkets, but there is no vision CONTROL. There may be random vision for each but they are not trying to clear the enemy's so that they have an advantage.

MLDzXnRRR2 votes

Wards in a duskblade meta are just free gold for the enemy team.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

mage supports such as brand/lux feel it puts them behind from doing damage and 'carrying the game"

EmperorFrostmare1 votes

I get that when that's the case, but I have just played a game with Soraka who also didn't buy a sightward, I'm not hating, I'm just wondering ^^

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i had a raka support main who rushed death cap saying she needs the ap for heals

cant fix stupid maybe one day we will have a cure

Pie Cubed1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=26TPMwvz,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-24T19:09:23.653+0000)

i had a raka support main who rushed death cap saying she needs the ap for heals

cant fix stupid maybe one day we will have a cure

I mean, the cure is natural selection. Dumb people eventually kill themselves off. That leaves only the smart people to populate the world.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

sadly no...

typically the poor and uneducated have the most kids

EmperorFrostmare2 votes

I couldn't agree more XD

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Recently had a Syndra support who built Doran's Ring -> Rabadon's Deathcap.

No Sightstone. No gold-income item.

Sadly, this was a Platinum/Diamond game...

Wildlife11 votes

Our response to that, is that syndra is a boosted monkey

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Honestly, chances are that they were autofilled and decided to passive-agrressively troll.

Fuh Queue1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=26TPMwvz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-24T19:04:53.311+0000)

mage supports such as brand/lux feel it puts them behind from doing damage and 'carrying the game"

I main Brand and sightstone is the first item I buy every single game as support. Brand can literally buy 5 warmogs with boots and be able to out damage his teammates lol

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i agree ( and u are one of the few who rush SS on mage support )

but people feel that ( i have had the arguments) that the 800 gold is too much to over come for them and they dont have the inventory slot or gold for damage..

im a support main too

and i bring up item 2301 you get ap ,cd, gold income and wards all in 1

legit had a game last night lux support 1st 4 items bought item 3108 item 1058 item 3020 item 3098

where the bot lane was lux/ziggs vs wukong/kalista

no armor no wards no vision wards

i asked hey you gonna get a SS she said she had to get damage 1st

AlienPrimate1 votes

I usually don't get sightstone until level 9 when I can get item 3364 . There isn't really a point in having sightstone in laning phase when control wards and trinkets can keep the lane warded. I chose to do this so I can get tear and idol on Taric to fix his mana problems. If I were to finish sightstone first, I would put myself at a disadvantage in that I can only trade 1 or 2 times before I'm oom.

Oleandervine1 votes

I've actually seen a good deal of supports not buy Sightstone, and this isn't limited to the typical targets of the witch hunts of Lux and Brand. I've seen Rakan, Braum, Thresh, Soraka, Sona, Janna, and just about everyone you can name not buy the Sightstone, or wait so late to buy it that their team is already in the gutter. Half the time when I see this, they for some reason choose to rush their gold item completion or something else. I don't get it and the only thing I can chalk it up to is people not putting enough stock in vision.

Muzét1 votes

They're not support then. If they don't go Sighstone as second if not first item (after item 3107 or item 3504 for example) Then they're not supports. they're mages.

Chibi Bronzlife1 votes

SS should be one of if not the first items a support buys. However, report them if they refuse to do their duty.

PopcornBunni1 votes

I've tried investing in Sightstone but it just feels like such a waste when the bottom laner doesn't react to the enemy jungler approaching, especially when I have item 3069 item 3107 item 3504 item 3222 item 3117 item 3190 to be buying to actually help my team in fights. There just isn't enough item slots to use something that has such a marginal impact on the game.

AwesomeGuyDj1 votes

I mean, when like 3 people have duskblade, sight stone kind of loses its usefulness.

Support Position1 votes

Because we are tired of carries flaming us, and garbage when they have 2 wards up. Carries ward yourselves. I buy sightstone every game. I still get flamed for no vision as my team just feeds and doesn't allow me out of base to sweep and deny wards to replace.

Not to mention no one uses the damn minimap that is a carry. No one. So why waste the gold [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Lauchmelder1 votes

Wards in a Duskblade meta are free gold for the enemy.

See MLDzXnRRR's post

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