This upcoming patch actually depresses me.

Amélie Cauchemar·4/27/2016, 9:02:46 PM·5 votes·619 views

I know most people have mixed bag feelings about Kindred

But, honestly . . . with how the patch is working out. It's overkill.

Most people will go, "Oh, this isn't so bad. X + Y =Z."

What people aren't getting though is did any of those special snowflakes actually take into consideration the attack resetting, or how vulnerable you are after wolf is done ((She's actually one of the easiest champs to invade believe it or not.)) This change makes it easier to invade her than it already was. On top of that. The thing about Kindred is this.

If she does not get her first mark her chance of winning that game plummets by a good 6%. Here is why.

I have to sacrifice an extra 6 or 7 auto attacks + extra mana for one buff while the other jungler is already well on their way to their next one. If the mark pops up on the scuttle bug on the way to their next buff they will get it, and then they will most likely invade me anyways because I am almost going to guaranteeingly be oom. ((Kindred uses more mana than the avg jungler,she actually does go oom if starting red buff side and has to smite blue B mid way, and still uses all her cds and has to auto attack fest it.))

So, while I'm dicking around with this fucking bull shit set of camps, incredibly oom, with an incredibly shit tacular jungle clear speed making a race to get my first mark + hopefully catch the other jungler on his way to kill my mentally challenged top laner.

These piece of craps Gragas LeeSin Gragas Graves Udyr XinZhao Tryndamere Shyvana Ekko Have already done all their camps, got MY marks, have more health, and more mana, and are already ganking MY ally before I'M even done. You know what's worse than that. (It's already like this ATM. PBE it's even slower))

Have you ever seen a 15 minute Kindred with no marks? She's a useless piece of garbage is what she is. I can't tell you how many times I run into highly coordinated 4 man premades that make it their goal in life to ruin my jungle while my laners sit there. It's only going to get worse with the changes too.

The ganks are now also sub par.

A sad reality is Kindred almost never gets damage off with her W because she often has to use it to actually reach the person she's trying to kill because she for some reason, despite having massive thighs, can't run to save her life. So, she has to hop 2 times just to reach them. Her two hops also = 1/2 of the average gap closer.

In invade skirmishes she's losing well over 400 damage. So, pre' much anyone in the game can actually kill her level 3 unless she somehow got two marks before then ((which required planning + the right enemy jungler + the right amount of incompetent players on the enemy team.))

To make matters even worse

With how the upcoming changers are, you frankly need to run armor pen, otherwise you'll do asstastic amounts of damage, especially if you're unfortunate ((which you will be)) trying to obtain marks. This will make your clear even slower, and even easier to be invaded.

((See below for the rest of the B.S of 6.9))

To make matters even worse, say good bye to ever ganking mid lane :))

item 3140 this little gem is now a useless piece of crap. So, going mid lane is a death sentence, especially if the opponent is Malzahar This special snowflake right here.

A very good chunk of skill revolved around how to utilize this weapon in a fight to out play opponents you otherwise cannot fight.

Darius Malzahar Anivia Brand Braum Ekko Fizz Fiora Kindred KogMaw Leona Shyvana Tryndamere Tristana XinZhao Vladimir Trundle Velkoz

This is just a list of a small hand full of champs you can counter play with this item with proper usage.

Now, Malzahar Is the literal definition of a brain dead champion. Immune to cc + damage amp + unqssable dot + unqssable ult. He's the epitome of brain dead, but now other champions have also become more brain dead, and or harder to counter which actually lowers the skill cap of this game by very large margins.

One of the "logicz" behind this

"Adcs rely on positioning, and this will separate the good from the bad."

Because being dead and walking out of base is "out of position."

Rengar Zed Evelynn Warwick Skarner Urgot And a hand full of other champs can all basically flash cheese 100-0 you. It's even worse when you're

Varus Jhin Ashe Draven Jinx KogMaw

I can't tell you how many games champs like

LeeSin Gragas Can Q + W + flash + R you from an entire lanes worth of distance and also kill you/get you killed by doing so.

"You were out of position. durr. get rekt baddy noob adc!"

But QSS won't save a lot of that. What it did do is remove slows and debuffs so that you "might" survive this cheese. Now, even if I do "get away." I'm going to randomly die from Brand passive, or something fucking stupid like that.

Either way the item 3140 just caters to the literal throat shoving 100% intentionally forced unbalanced AP meta shift because their intention is to make mid laners blatantly over powered in the upcoming patch.

So, not only did my main champ Kindred get triple nerfed in one patch, they also indirectly buffed all of Kindred's difficult match ups + made middle lane almost impossible to gank + also made tanky champions able to flat out ignore her.

All in one patch. + basically made all adcs 100% a non factor in one patch. There's no reason to pick any ADC that isn't Tristana in the upcoming patches because the rest are going to get deleted before they can do anything relevant.

There were a million different ways they could have handled a "LOT" of ordeals. This was IMHO the worst possible way of doing it.

IF all of these actually do make it to live, I'll most likely be moving on to a different game until the very obviously incoming nerfs/reverts come.

It's also just ridiculous how my champ only has a decent win rate because a very small player base uses her and it just happened to be these one or two patches where she is even relevant. ((Her high pick rate is almost solely in upper plat/gold/diamond. Most of the gold and plat ones are garbage tbh. So, it's basically only the diamond ones that are even good and abusing her on smurf accounts.))

Just a few patches ago Kindred had a 46% win rate and I was even being reported for picking her. Now she has a "respectable" win rate against the "right" enemies and so she gets triple nerfed + a meta change + a complete itemization change + 4 items nerfed + a pool stick shoved up her ass all in one patch.

:)

GJ!

And yes, I am salty, and yes this is a tl;dr. But, it doesn't concern just my champion. The entire mid lane drastic change is an ass load of BS.

47 Comments

Sahn Uzal4/27/2016, 9:36:46 PM3 votes

First off, They. Their. Kindred is a dual entity, Wolf is a he, lamb is a she. Together they are Kindred.

Kindred is an early game jungler. I'm personally expecting early game junglers to be REALLY strong next patch with the changes to Dragon. If these elemental dragons prove to be strong, and prove to be important to contest early on... what kind of jungler would I want to get controll over the Dragon area? A: Nautilus The tank jungler who has to prey he won't get killed by some cheesy invade at level2 B: Warwick The jungler who basically does not exist untill level 6 C: Kindred The early game monster who can make any jungler their bitch (Nid even more so) D: Khazix The assassin jungler who is feast or famine. He'll propably end up the same as A or C depending on how the game goes.

You get where I'm going, don't you? :P Also, I can see the new Bloodrazor be really good on them :P

ModWulf Helhammer4/27/2016, 9:17:16 PM3 votes

You realize QSS will still remove suppressions

FACE THE WlND4/27/2016, 9:04:03 PM3 votes

Kindred may be an easy champion to invade (According to you), but she is also one of the best, if not the best at invading.

Lugg4/27/2016, 9:55:16 PM2 votes

Kindred is arguably the strongest jungler in the game right now. She needs nerfs badly. Her clear times are good, she has infinite stacking damage so she never falls off, she can literally do a successful gank at level 2 if she starts red, and she has possibly the best ult in the game. There is no part of the game where Kindred isn't strong.

With the QSS changes, you will see a lot of champs now get gutted. Zed and Malz will get huge nerfs soon because of this. Lee Sin has never been even remotely balanced, so there's nothing new there. The Gragas combo you talked about is very hard to do and can only happen when his flash is up.

Saying that ADCs are now a non-factor is absolutely laughable since they are currently the strongest class in the game. Try winning ANY game at ANY ELO without an ADC.

Kai Guy4/27/2016, 9:31:56 PM1 votes
Faith Breaker4/27/2016, 9:21:44 PM1 votes

You're worse then me son, and I'm an asshole.

ZT Xperimentor4/28/2016, 2:58:45 PM1 votes

Since when can urgot 100->0 you within seconds? Were you doing something strange . . . like not buying items?