Im Not Saying they Are Broken.....

h5LYF41Lam·Mar 26, 2017·7 votes·1,086 views

im just saying every champion that has these 2 items in his main build just seems to have an absuredly high winrate

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InTheoryMar 26, 20174 votes

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h5LYF41LamMar 26, 20172 votes

it would be,if ap supports and tank supports who have to prioritize other items didnt exist.

WinterwingsMar 26, 20171 votes

You do realize that there is absolutely nothing stoping those AP or Tank supports (Especially tank supports) from building those two items just as well and still making a damn good use out of them?

It just so happens that due to the fact that enchanters have the best synergy with them that they are the ones making the most of those two items...

This is all down to the fact because those two actives scale with nothing but levels, if they were more specialized, such as for example if Locket had the shield scale with Armor and MR while Redemption scaled with AP or CDR there wouldn't be this problem...

5000000000000000Mar 26, 20172 votes

Locket/Redemption also scales with %heal/shield amp.

Earl EulrichMar 26, 20173 votes

and i thought we´d see item 3153 item 3071 those two items are just rushed on any support, even on brand.

NymzoMar 26, 20173 votes

item 3107 is op yes and it should get a rework.

item 3190 is not, we lost hp and cdr for a better active, it's just that the combination of the 2 items is dumb as fuck.

DethflashMar 26, 20171 votes

If you toss an ardent censor in that build item 3504 , then youre winrate can go up to 70% on certain champions like Lulu and Janna. Its not the champions who are strong, no its the support items. There is a challenger support Ashe who RUSHES ardent censor, plus with the stoneborn pack keystone, ashe is buffing and healing every ally champion attacking the same enemy champion as ashe. This challenger ashe support has over a 70% win rate with this build, in challenger...

Asayake 5150glowMar 26, 20171 votes

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If you toss an ardent censor in that build , then youre winrate can go up to 70% on certain champions like Lulu and Janna. Its not the champions who are strong, no its the support items. There is a challenger support Ashe who RUSHES ardent censor, plus with the stoneborn pack keystone, ashe is buffing and healing every ally champion attacking the same enemy champion as ashe. This challenger ashe support has over a 70% win rate with this build, in challenger...

Hey I saw that on a teammate, they were theorycrafting tho.

Legacy HydralphaMar 26, 20171 votes

As a Bard player, I tend to always get these items. Locket helps me protect my team and Redemption gives me both a stronger team presence and makes my heals actually do something. I wouldn't be against these items having a weaker active or base stats to make them less of the 100% optimal support build.