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JeffLeague123··2 votes·422 views

As a Jungle Main I have faced many ALLIES that have been telling me to gank them over and over and over. I don't, it's obvious. If they can't deal with it there is no reason to join in unless you have to. Eventually yes i do gank the losing annoying lane at least twice. Counter ganks happen rarely early game when I play (I blame myself 25% of the time, sorry). When I gank and it goes successful and they keep dying after and keep asking for ganks. I ignore them and help other lanes.

Note: Your jungler is not your Bodyguard, or Meat Tank, or a person to take your anger out on. If you say that Junglers only gank and farm and nothing else you are wrong.So what if they're new? They still probably do better than you at jungle (Maybe). Jungler Mains have experienced the same thing hundreds maybe even thousands of times. Yet you don't know what they've been through. Stop playing Mid or Top or Bot (Gotta love good Supports) And play jungle for at least 30 or 50 games. ALSO DO IT IN RANKED. It'll give you a better feeling on what we have been through.

Now yes so what if you check my op.gg and see that i've only played like 300 games in the jungle and is a Master Yi main and I'm in Platnium 5. I play non-meta champs most of the time and "meta" champions when my champions have been banned.

Remember: Your jungler is not your mom, she doesn't feed you. You feed yourself.

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5 Comments

Weathered1 votes

I wouldn't go throwing around "jungle veteran". If you aren't having that many counter ganks in the early game, try to learn the enemy jungle routes for popular champions and start accordingly in order to take advantage of an early counter gank, it can make a huge difference.

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

also if you see your jungler camping you:

DO yield territory DO save your CC DO ping for all wards that you know of as he approaches DO communicate if the enemy has any escapes DO position yourself to position the enemy closer to your jungler DO ping when you're ready DO ping if your too low to fight safely

DONT all in if he's too far DONT shove the wave (unless your jungler is requesting assistance in a towerdive) DONT ignore the creep line and just gun for their buns

for junglers: DO ping ganking intent (along with primary target for botlane ganks) DO ask for ward placements DO set up an escape route DO ask for any summoners that they may have

DONT gank if your laner(s) are unable to assist you and you cant safely 1v1/2 DONT gank if the stronger enemy jungler can respond DONT go in too late (laner will prolly die) DONT stay too long in brush DONT burn a gapclose if you can simply walk to the enemy

Cycera1 votes

I am a support main and I can definitely relate to this a teensy bit, but I WAY MORE often find myself being the bystander in a situation where the laners are picking on who they think is a second support, for some reason. I view the jungler as a position in the game that requires quite a bit. It's a challenging role to play and junglers have their own objectives and enemy. When my jungler ganks, I find it really nice and helpful. Even just having an extra body there to put on pressure is sooo nice and I understand that they are taking time away from their objectives to help me. If my lane simply can't be helped, it's not difficult to tell the jungler to go gank a lane that will probably win. If a lane is past help, all the laners can do is just stop dying. It's hard, even with ganks, to come back if one is THAT crippled. I think people should stop relying on the help of a jungler so much. It's as you said, the jungler is not your mom.

Pika3101 votes

See, this isn't necessarily my mentality. If I'm up top lane and the enemy jungler comes up top to gank. I don't expect you to counter-gank. I expect you to go bot. I expect you to take the free dragon. I expect my jungler to be doing something somewhere, anywhere, on the map, with full knowledge that the enemy jungler can't interfere.

There is a free fire dragon for the taking. The enemy team's smite is on the other side of the map. The enemy doesn't have teleport, I do have teleport, mostly for the exact reason that there is a free fire dragon for the taking. Please just take it.

This is my biggest complaint about allied junglers.

ExaggeratedToast1 votes

IF the argument if about bad plays or overextending you have a point that about the problem at hand is them learning to play against camps. but even so you really should be finding a route that meets the enemy jungler. intersecting/counter jungle/counter ganks should be something you are getting done, in best case scenario all of them at the same time, but none of them should be rare.

In the odd cases the people are not just being camped they are also being dived and people are not flexibly open to the idea of trading lanes or duo top or something to avoid being a feeder to dive heavy aggression (usually made by premades deploying tilt tactics)

an example i have is a game where i was being dived by voli jungle and shen mid lane as well as pantheon top lane, they made sure to bully me and almost all my deaths had been under tower, yet i got no ganks, no counter gank, no camp, no help. in which case i really needed it i finally made the choice to not go mid and i stopped dying i went and leached top jungle and mid. to which the team as you might guess hated. so i got put into a situation where i cant go mid i cant go bot, i cant jungle, i cant go top and i cant afk...

while ill agreed most every time you are right in this statement, i think being able to identify countered lanes, true need and possible gain (sometimes you get counter picked and that can make a lane impossible without help)

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