Leblanc 45'61% winrate got nerfed again

Dani El Pezglobo·Jul 27, 2017·13 votes·1,198 views

I cant understand why are u nerfing her again when she is already unplayable , i know she is a good pick on competitive , but woa , this is just crazy.

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rip john shelbyJul 27, 201712 votes

They should rework her to an assassine with no waveclear and everything is fine.

Valor BotJul 27, 20172 votes

This.

AHScovenJul 28, 20171 votes

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They should rework her to an assassine with no waveclear and everything is fine.

so they should revert her

zippyHDJul 27, 20175 votes

I am saying it now and i will always say it. The reason she is OP is because of the new Passive, where she can do AOE damage in a teamfight and wave clear better because of the passive and thats the big reason, she is OP and played/banned alot in the pro scene. And not because W did much damage or something else. Which Riot doesn't really seems to understand.

Dani El PezgloboJul 27, 20175 votes

NO ONE UNDERSTAND WHY THEY PUT WAVECLEAR ON HER FIRST , she is azir 2.0

AzureeeJul 27, 20175 votes

Pathetic rework

Akali is SO HOTJul 27, 20174 votes

Failed rework

KloqdqJul 27, 20173 votes

It's like having a passive that holds all your damage output is maybe hurting the champion from having a function kit. If they nerfed the passive damage and shifted power into say ult, then it would help on the waveclear issue.

Rishal21Jul 27, 20172 votes

I love LB and I hate this nerf. Honestly, if this is geared for competitive, like Worlds which is coming up in a couple months, then use a different patch for them!

BlakiepugJul 27, 20172 votes

Riot has literally just fallen into a cycle of rework beloved champion then nerf them like they are Azir. Maybe, just maybe, if a rework causes a champion's play rate and win rate to nosedive, the best solution would be to revert the rework that cause all these issues in the first place instead of throwing these champions in the garbage can and hoping no one will care.

CatastropJul 27, 20172 votes

It's because Riot doesn't ever like tackling a problem at the core and being with it. Instead they'll beat around the bush and nerf crap that's completely fine and then when the champion is finally garbage. Then they'll hit the one thing that caused all the problems in the first place leaving them scraping grime from the bottom of the trash heap, because in addition to losing the thing cancer thing that kept the champion broken, they also lost everything else.

nm1010Jul 27, 20171 votes

That is what happens when a champion's interaction in the game is press w gunblade q rq passive on an adc for a kill.

Viktor Von LazerJul 27, 20178 votes

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That is what happens when a champion's interaction in the game is press w gunblade q rq on an adc for a kill.

That sounds complicated. QW orianna, if by chance they're still alive press R and kill the support next to them as a bonus.

nm1010Jul 27, 20172 votes

Orianna has to walk into them, LeBlanc can easily flank and close the gap with w.

Viktor Von LazerJul 27, 20177 votes

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Orianna has to walk into them, LeBlanc can easily flank and close the gap with w.

Gap closing, and flanking.... Fizz, Talon, kassadin come on.... killing an ADC is not an accomplishment in 2017. She's a strong pick in competitive atm, but pretty mediocre in all but the best hands as far as soloQ goes.

And my point was a QW from Orianna deletes someone in a fraction of a second. I don't understand how anyone could find it satisfy playing a champ that takes so long to kill it's target aka LeBlanc.

nm1010Jul 27, 20172 votes

I don't understand how anyone could find it satisfy playing a champ that takes so long to kill it's target aka LeBlanc.

LeBlanc is a champion of choices, if you make the correct choices you will nearly always win the game. If you make the incorrect choices you will be next to useless at best. You can claim that many champions can kill an adc, but nobody has the options that LeBlanc does for getting to them, confusing them, evading them, etc.

So why have I put hundreds of games on the champion? I absolutely love the shear number of ways I can play a situation to create opportunities that no other champion can create.

Dani El PezgloboJul 27, 20173 votes

Completly agree , bad riot balance game round competitive por play so lb isnt viable anymore on soloQ

BakedLotionJul 27, 20171 votes

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Gap closing, and flanking.... Fizz, Talon, kassadin come on.... killing an ADC is not an accomplishment in 2017. She's a strong pick in competitive atm, but pretty mediocre in all but the best hands as far as soloQ goes.

And my point was a QW from Orianna deletes someone in a fraction of a second. I don't understand how anyone could find it satisfy playing a champ that takes so long to kill it's target aka LeBlanc.

But a Q W from orianna only has a 130% ap ratio

Leblanc's has like wat? 200% im guessing? and more base damage Not even including gunblade

Viktor Von LazerJul 27, 20173 votes

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But a Q W from orianna only has a 130% ap ratio

Leblanc's has like wat? 200% im guessing? and more base damage Not even including gunblade

QW is usually all you need to kill an adc (since they're usually lvls below you) If you need more damage add R, that's 190% even then place the ball behind them that adds E for 220%. But my point is

Her combos are slow and you have to wait for passive. She's not that strong until you're a REAL master of her.
An Orianna doing less damage doesn't matter if all LeBlanc extra damage is overkill with passive, but not enough to kill without.She's basically forced to wait unless she's ahead. I'd rather Orianna who's just right in damage and blows you up really quickly.

InfernapeJul 27, 201712 votes

Tbh LB would never have built gunblade if Riot didn't proceed to Olaf her W.

nm1010Jul 27, 20171 votes

I'm aware, people are downvoting me thinking I'm qq'ing about LeBlanc damage or something. If you want a fair discussion on the champion you should be able to list out the clearly problematic parts of their kit.

InfernapeJul 28, 20171 votes

I agree with you. Gunblade LB is somewhat unhealthy (I played LeBlanc frequently prior to her rework but haven't played her much since her W change). Her burst pattern with it is quite problematic.