Sick of feeling handicapped as mana mid vs. non-mana mids

Sacred Math·9/26/2018, 2:45:40 AM·147 votes·22,119 views

It's an instant handicap taking a mana mid, a la Ryze, against non-mana mid, a la Zed. You're not only constantly micromanaging your mana output, but you will likely have to back to fountain before he does. Just absolutely ridiculous. There is nothing in the game that makes mana regen at least on par with energy champs.

And don't even get me started on yasuo mid, who not only does not have mana or energy, but a double passive to shove down our throats.

195 Comments

flibitydoo9/26/2018, 5:38:24 AM91 votes

Inb4 biased assassin mains say "we don't want mindless waveclearing mages mid" while they mindless waveclear mid with their assassin

JohnnyNeverSins9/26/2018, 5:49:10 AM39 votes

You know what? Zed has energy,Akali has energy,fucking Katarina and that cancer Yasuo DO NOT HAVE ANYTGING,NOT EVEN LONG COOL DOWNS,

GP has mana,Oorn has mana,but you know what? Again FUCKING YASUO DOES NOT HAVE ANY RESOURCES OR CD,NEITHER DOES RIVEN OR GAREN OR GNAR AND THEY DONT EVEN HAVE LONG COOL DOWNS.

It's so frustrating that I need to put effort in what I'm doing because if I miss something there goes 1/4 of my mana and they can just spam and spam and spam without consequences...

At least energy champions have some limits... practically,but those cancers I mentioned not only they don't have,they also have an overloaded kit with dashes,crits and cc..

CIayman9/26/2018, 6:28:29 AM19 votes

I don't have much trouble with Zed, Kat, or Akali Ekko

Or does "mana user" only apply to the one specific scenario you want to bitch about?

VG Crows9/26/2018, 7:23:20 AM18 votes

It's funny and ironic how Riot addressed mindless waveclearing but ONLY for mages and then nerfed them,meanwhile the likes of cancer Talon Zed Irelia basically waveclear better than mages at all stages of the game now,especially early,forcing people into even MORE uniteractivity and waveclearing since it's so fucking oppressive to get cheesed on mid levels 1-2. Riot Assassin bias anyone?

Glory979/26/2018, 11:02:44 AM17 votes

What if I told you that mana is supposed to be a handicap that non-mana champions don't have?

Warlord Rhinark9/26/2018, 6:16:02 AM16 votes

Eh. Energy might seem superior to mana in everything, it still has it's disadvantages like not being able to increase the amount of Energy you have, and not being able to get the full effect out of building mana items.

The real problem is resourceless champions that don't have to spend anything. That's annoying.

Mael Jade9/26/2018, 5:41:01 AM16 votes

Ever played Top lane against something like Gnar, Garen, Riven and all the other wonderful "i can use all my abilities without spending anything on then" champions? Tanks tend to go OOM before getting Mana items like item 3110 when trading for longer. They just wait on their cooldowns to use it all again

Spank the Fox9/26/2018, 7:20:59 AM14 votes

You chose Ryze as your example?

The champion who’s mana issues disappear after 5-7 minutes because his kit encourages him to build mana?

Lol

Sacred Math9/26/2018, 6:21:08 AM12 votes

and don't talk to me about Zed being a squishy melee, when he's insanely mobile and can harass nonstop from RANGE because he doesn't have to worry about mana or cool downs

or yasuo, who doesn't have to even worry about energy, or cool downs, with infinite mobility, a hard close and a DOUBLE passive.

If you're going to make champs without mana...HIT THEM IN THEIR KITS...OR GIVE US REAL EARLY GAME MANA REGEN.

Dope Solo9/26/2018, 4:44:43 AM12 votes

Official red position: Eat Zed's shit. Also, https://www.mmobomb.com/news/superdata-league-legends-way-worst-performing-year-since-2014/

RAINBOW GUMDROPS9/26/2018, 3:21:00 AM8 votes

This

EmpressOfBeauty9/26/2018, 12:59:00 PM5 votes

So true. I'm sick of it. Mana mages don't even have the same early trading power that mana-less ones tend to have.