Zed

ReySolomon·4/12/2018, 8:08:51 PM·26 votes·9,948 views

http://na.op.gg/champion/statistics

Top 1 with a nice WR/Pick rate.

I think mages should have a little tiny more base armor to start off with now and i get they needed to buff him because of the supports having locket/knights vow/their own shield kit and Duskblade nerfs but it did a number in the midlane.

From what i've seen in my ranked games/friends games most can't stay near the cannon when it dies or else zed will w-q-w-e with so much burst that he didn't have even before the duskblade nerfs.

What do you guys think about him right now?

58 Comments

Step Sis Lux4/12/2018, 8:15:51 PM25 votes

or just nerf him

Death by Glamour4/12/2018, 8:20:04 PM11 votes

what worries me more is fizz

Eye Of Terror4/13/2018, 3:56:14 AM7 votes

Zed is fine, actually we should buff him more - Riot Repertoir

FrostQueensPlane4/13/2018, 12:03:56 AM6 votes

Assassins have been dominating solo Q winrates for a while now but keep buffing them repetoir, not like you learned anything from adcs 2017 lul.

Hyquiem4/13/2018, 12:56:42 AM5 votes

Playing Azir ment to win lane in some way sure, this Zed farms like an ass I’m low on cs since I don’t want to push into him. Hits lvl 3 fking spams w e q misses his q autos my hp 1/9 1/9 +electrocute he basicaly just delt 4/9 of my hp. Now I find idiotic he gets 2 kills of my team and I’m sitting like dirt on the ground. My team starts farming each other. The worlds coming apart some one just tell me what do I do?

Dope Solo4/13/2018, 12:36:12 AM5 votes

Zed was already in need of nerfs and buffing him was a dick move. An early game as strong and as safe as his **should **be punished mid/late game by falling off proportionately.

GodlyBane4/13/2018, 1:40:36 AM4 votes

hes busted :D

Bisaknosp4/13/2018, 12:10:58 AM4 votes

assassins in general seem too strong imo if you dont have a shield support you are fucked (especially as ad)

AquariusGine4/13/2018, 12:33:49 AM4 votes

Zed is very difficult to deal with at the moment, 100% ban for me

BlackEyesBlue4/13/2018, 2:07:12 AM4 votes

I've been banning him mid all season. He's been one of my most hated champs since I started playing this game 3 years ago! I've never undersood how he was considered fair? Easy farm, reliable poke and mobility, a press R to win ult, items seemingly made JUST for him.. Why he can do what he does w/o mana has always baffled me. I still remember a time when all he had to do was wait till 6, then he instantly won lane because an all in with ignite would kill any non-tank from 2/3 hp, making you leave lane so he could shread your tower! I NEVER want to see him, or ANY champ be able to be that oppressive again!

Troll for Trump4/13/2018, 11:21:17 AM4 votes

Not really.

http://na.op.gg/champion/zed/statistics/mid

If you look at his stats for winrate over game length, he never has the highest winrate at any point in the game.

He has a meh laning at 15th place (expected, until he hits ult) a mid game spike at 10th place and 8th place (the assassin high point) 35-40 min 18th place is meh 40+ min he becomes obsolete, but that's expected

The tier list can be inaccurate sometimes. For comparison, look at Brand support; he's rated Tier 3 on op.gg But, from 0-30 min, he has the 2nd highest winrate.

If you think that Zed's stats are still strong, look at Talon (a good baseline for AD assassins) Talon has the 9th highest winrate from 0-30 min (lvl 2 cheese, high roam potential) 16th highest winrate from 30-35 min 14th highest winrate from 35-40 min 31st highest winrate 40+ min

Those stats are REALLY close to Zed's. Zed's stats aren't that out of line

The "Top 1" is an overrepresentation of how powerful Zed is.

He does not need nerfs

IP Masquerena4/13/2018, 10:04:48 AM3 votes

They need to remove the effect of the passive on minions and there. Done.

I don't care about his damage, but if you get a lead on him, his passive makes it almost pointless, as the extra damage helps him a ton, while if he gets the lead, it's easy shove and roam.

Shablagoo4/13/2018, 12:35:24 AM3 votes

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELWIaSiWLGo]

plz watch im so sick of these

Zed genius4/12/2018, 9:07:04 PM3 votes

Last time zed was good was in the patch when they made QSS not remove his ult (6.9)and then he got gutted immidiately. That was literally on like april 2016 jesus twitch and janna can be broken for like 2 years straight but zed gets such a rough time for being good for 1 patch

Dope Solo4/13/2018, 4:51:54 AM3 votes

Letting Zed sit at the bottom of the meta for a season or two is perfectly ok.

Slice n Dice em4/13/2018, 3:25:07 AM3 votes

not this again. they buff a champion, then people start complaining then they buff all other champions which are fked by that champion. Then those champion become strong they buff more champions and the cycle of buffing starts. Simple solution if something is too toxic then fkin nerf it, instead of buffing all other shit.

ReySolomon4/13/2018, 6:19:30 AM3 votes

@to the people who say i'm complaining

Which part did I? XD i'm simply asking for a little tiny base armor buff for mid lane mages, that is all really and the reason is because Riot is not thinking about nerfing him anytime soon.

OatheSworn4/12/2018, 9:20:42 PM2 votes

Due to the recent changes to Zed's Q, it does next to nothing when it goes through units so if you aren't confident in you dodging skills, stand in the middle of the wave, take the boneskin rune, and watch Zed do negative damage. Seriously. That thing will heal you--it does so little damage lol

SpongebobIsLife4/13/2018, 6:02:20 AM2 votes

neglecting the fact that majority of the top 10 champs are mages, and have been for literally 4 seasons.

Luminev4/13/2018, 7:30:45 PM2 votes

Hmm I read something about Repetoir saying that he somehow has MORE counterplay since they removed his reduced damage when hitting a target with multiple shurikens. Play off of the minions for the reduced damage for passing targets... but isn't that what people tried to do anyways? How does it add MORE counterplay.