Riot you are screwing a lot of Fiddlesticks players with these PBE changes.

Frooster·2/8/2018, 3:47:41 PM·12 votes·1,439 views

For those who dont know, Dark wind no longers deals bonus 50% damage to minions which completely kills him as a Mid laner, who has around 25% pick rate while jungle has around 35% .http://champion.gg/champion/Fiddlesticks/Jungle?league=op.gg Seems rather odd CONSIDERING how vocal they have been about accepting that champions can fill different roles in the game ( Ekko and Morgana) and buffing them to fullfill that niche. If you are not goin to increase the bonus damage in minions thats ok but please LEAVE IT at 50% instead of removing it and killing a midlaner that is mostly playes by mains and as a counterpick.

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LostFr0st2/8/2018, 3:51:20 PM7 votes

cooldown lowered from 12/11.5/11/10.5/10 to 10 at all ranks.
cost increased from 50/60/70/80/90 to 70/80/90/100/110
Additional damage to monsters increased from 50% to 100% [No longer mentions minions]

also: Crowstorm (R) cooldown lowered from 150/140/130 to 140/110/80

Lets not cherrypick the changelist. This does not nerf middlesticks. It's either even or a straight buff. It's a bigger buff for Jg though I agree (middlesticks is already oppressive in certain matchups)

Ahristocats2/8/2018, 3:49:47 PM6 votes

dw middlane fiddle isn't healthy

meanwhile

Cassiopeia Ryze Malzahar Veigar Syndra Leblanc are healthy

Oleandervine2/8/2018, 5:29:43 PM2 votes

As an added bonus, this is a HUGE BOON to Support Fiddlesticks because you will be less likely to steal creep now and more likely to be spamming crows in the faces of your enemies!

Jmman2/8/2018, 6:00:08 PM2 votes

Sadly i dont understand.

What will happen is lane fiddle will throw more "E's" that will be more tilting to the opponent. Then, Fiddle will have a harder time farming which will make fiddle more tilted.

Meanwhile, in the jungle fiddle will clear 1 or 2 secs fasters on wolves while all the other camps are unchanged. Raptors will still cause you to drain took much for early level kills. Scuttler will just walk away from you (ult counter play to fiddle)

My Ult will still allows be up for team fights due to CD on everthing make me rage more because that is where all his power is.

Nerf to lane fiddle. No change in jungle Support fiddle get 2 less CS a minute from raging ADC.

See this was a ADC QoL change not a fiddle one. You had this all wrong thing with was a fiddle update but instead just a QoL update for adc our overlords.

Ginger9762/8/2018, 5:27:26 PM1 votes

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For those who dont know, Dark wind no longers deals bonus 50% damage to minions which completely kills him as a Mid laner, who has around 25% pick rate while jungle has around 35% .http://champion.gg/champion/Fiddlesticks/Jungle?league=op.gg Seems rather odd CONSIDERING how vocal they have been about accepting that champions can fill different roles in the game ( Ekko and Morgana) and buffing them to fullfill that niche. If you are not goin to increase the bonus damage in minions thats ok but please LEAVE IT at 50% instead of removing it and killing a midlaner that is mostly playes by mains and as a counterpick.

Did they give a reason why they completely removed it? While I don't agree with all bashing of the balance team, these are the types of changes that I don't understand and I hope they provide context for. Like, why the complete removal, instead of decreasing it to 25% as a first step?

Cowgirl Ed2/8/2018, 4:54:30 PM1 votes

they killed also evelynn with the changes on her Q, she can't really lane anymore. "we are completely fine with champions filling more than one roles" LUL

Who Fed Ru2/8/2018, 7:02:48 PM1 votes

nobody wants middlesticks anyway.